It would be worth it if you sold them a few months before the digital release IMO
It would be worth it if you sold them a few months before the digital release IMO
It would be worth it if you sold them a few months before the digital release IMO
This would be detrimental to the label as a whole. Why should the majority of buyers (digital) suffer because a handful of people are still resistant to change?
Just lol.
"Months" (plural) might be a bit much because of the nature of DNB and tracks being "old" 3 weeks after being released to a lot of people. It also really spreads out your campaign and hype cause say now it's Feb and you're like "NEW SO & SO RECORD OUT NOW ON VINYL"... then like 3 months later when you're like "SO & SO RECORD OUT NOW ON DIGITAL" you're not going to get much traction.It would be worth it if you sold them a few months before the digital release IMO
Why does this matter to you?
Unless you are thinking of starting a vinyl record label it seems kind of irrelevant??
I have thought a lot about starting a vinyl only label, and hopefully I will get round to it at some point, and the aim would be to have fun and do what I love, not to make money. I used to sink hundreds of quid into the pub each month, and now I've given up booze I know I would get a lot more enjoyment out of my money by taking a loss on selling records that I love. Cost has nothing to do with vinyl anymore IMO
"Months" (plural) might be a bit much because of the nature of DNB and tracks being "old" 3 weeks after being released to a lot of people. It also really spreads out your campaign and hype cause say now it's Feb and you're like "NEW SO & SO RECORD OUT NOW ON VINYL"... then like 3 months later when you're like "SO & SO RECORD OUT NOW ON DIGITAL" you're not going to get much traction.
However, I'd definitely recommend the practice of some kind of exclusivity period as you've suggested. There's a DJ mentality of exclusives that will never die in this genre. If I send out a new release 2 months before release way more DJs will play it then if I send it 2 weeks before release, regardless of track quality. So the same applies to your vinyl buyers (who one would assume are mainly DJs).
So try doing say a 2 week exclusive on vinyl before digital, or if you want to get really creative: Vinyl >> 2 weeks later exclusive shop date (Beatport, Juno, etc.) >> 2 weeks later full release (iTunes, everyone else). The latter can help you focus your sales on one shop and hopefully gives you a better chance of charting (which is always tough when you're first starting out) and at the same time it helps build rapport with the digital shops (BP, TID, Juno, DNBA, etc).
Oh and don't listen to your distro if they don't want to do exclusives, they're just being lazy. I know a lot of the smaller distros people start up with when you ask them to set up a 2-week Beatport exclusive or set-up an iTunes pre-order or whatever, it's like saying "hey can you build me a fusion reactor plant?". It's beyond simple to do.[/]
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It would be worth it if you sold them a few months before the digital release IMO
This has to be the stupidest thing i've ever read
You'd be happy to take a loss putting vinyl for enjoyment? I must've missed that bit in Money Management 101...
Unless you got rich parents, work an exceptionally paid job to be able to run a label in your spare time or are happy to just fritter your money away because you're a moron, you should never really be happy to take a loss on anything. I respect people who still put out wax but I'm sure anyone doing who was losing money would see carrying on is futile. Unless you're any of the descriptions mentioned above.
I'm all about doing stuff for the love and the art but a bit of business sense has to be in there too and LOSING money doesn't make any to me
I have wasted thousands on drugs and alcohol in the last few years, and spent a lot on vinyl too. Guess which makes me happier.
I do not want to make a loss, but then again it would never be a career so making money out of it isn't a goal either. I'm guessing you probably have more than one hobby which costs you money. And if you don't, get a fucking life. If I get to spent days hanging out with friends, making and listening to music, planning nights etc.... that doesn't sound so bad to me.
On another note saying that shit about money management immediately after I have said it's not about money is... backwards and nonsensical at best.
windowing like that is a nice idea but a moot point unfortunately. If you release vinyl only it will be ripped and up for download by pirates by about 8am on the day of release, so anyone searching for your release will be able to download it free in the format they prefer.
All you're doing by delaying the digital is abandoning the customers who will actually pay for it.
This is always the argument. There are DJs and true fans and there are cunts. Cunts will download the vinyl rip/digital ilegally no matter what. Fans and DJs will buy the vinyl or wait those 2+ weeks to get the digital. Simple as that. And those guys are the reason you're doing what you're doing as well as the ones who are making it able for you to do it. Don't get me wrong, I get that it's not easy these days and it's no charity either, I respect everyone who's putting out music in any way he sees fit yet I disagree with the point about abandoning your customers if you put out vinyl a few weeks before the digital.
As most of the DJs do not spin vinyl anymore they'll just wait for their release date and wouldn't care much about some exclusivity or tune getting old because there's gonna be like 20 guys playing it at the very best which is still hell of a lot less than all those DJs getting the unreleased stuff from labels months/weeks before the release date.