processing of bass sounds

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  1. dieiscast

    dieiscast Member

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    hy there. i'm still a beginner in producing that's why i've a question about modulation and processing.

    i use massive to create bases. i have the problem (like other members in this forum) that the sounds are not sound fat and crispy enough. i looking forward to buy the camel phat plugin (holiday sale). is this recomendable or would you say, that the possibilities in massive are enough? how do you create your basses? is it in your opinion necessary to process the sounds outside massive? is it advisable to add a distortion in massive even if spilt the frequencies afterwards to process them separatly?
     
  2. luciduk

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    camelphat sounds so good on massive its well worth it IMO
     
  3. yogi23

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    depending on what DAW you use, you will probably need to invest in some good distortion/saturation plug ins to get your bass more "fat" and "crispy" sounding. also EQ and compression play a big part
     
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    carefull though if you add to much distortion you can start to have a counter-productive effect on you sound ( bass will start to sound thin). get it sounding as best as you can within massive first, add some e.q and compression. then add some dist/sat for final polish try on a send first then you still have your original signal and you can e.q the distortion send to pull out some of the frequency's you want to cut through more. if you want some more power behind it try layering.
     
  5. dieiscast

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    thanks a lot for the replies.

    i use cubase 6 artist. so there is not that much in there IMO. which plugins could you recommend? i already have the guitar rig (from komplete 7) but i didn't already find the right components in there...

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    thanks a lot. great feedback.

    did i get i right: you would't use a lot inside massive?

    another question about layering. do you use the same presets with other processings or should i better add some completely new sounds?
     
  6. luciduk

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    Using the same bass and layering it sounds great coz u want to have the same motion in each layer, unless you just want a flat sub-bass with a different bass on top

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    i recommend digging up the Sabre tutorial from computer music to explain some layering of the bass!
     
  7. Labrat

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    or the alix perez video ^

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yheX4yrOOQI

    thats how i approach it personally, using hardware distortion and an emu sampler. i dont sound that good yet though. try a few different ways, there is no wrong, find your sound.
    just fuck it until it talks back to ya
     
  8. dieiscast

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    so, thanks so far.

    what do you think about this christmas offer? http://www.crysonic.com/bundles.html

    i think i would not need this at my level of producing, but at this price!?! probably the bass enhancer, the compressor and the saturation effect could be interesstion for processing bass. has anyone some experience with it?
     
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    T:M Dusty Techno Workout

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    I would never, ever, use any effect labeled as a "bass enhancer" or a "Bass Boost" as they usually just muddy up the sound. A few choice distortion/saturation/overdrive plugs, EQ, Compression and layering would be what I recommend.
     
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    sam the dnb man Variation

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    Lots of layering and EQing.
     
  11. Elzerk

    Elzerk 00111100 00110011

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    You should buy ohmicide, or any multiband distortion unit. Chorus and different stereoizer plugins can help making dem basses fat.
     
  12. lostnthesound

    lostnthesound Burns Easily in the Sun

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    Massive is more than capable of producing fatness, warmth and crispiness. It's all about experimenting with not just the Osc's, but the different noise/filter offerings (bitcrusher), fx (dimensional expander, various tube types) as well as wave form combinations. Also, and I don't mean to sound like a dick when I say this, read Massive's manual. It's very intuitive, informative and gives a lot of detail on the ins and outs of the different aspects of Massive. One such piece of info is that Massive was designed in a way that when pushing a signal beyond it's normal means, it actually adds a "distorted warmth" similar to analog synths as opposed to inaudible digital distortion. Massive is a beast, but is extremely functional once you've played around with it for a while.

    *sidenote* In the coming days I'll be uploading some homegrown Massive patches created by myself and msmith222 to show you some of the potential filthy, devastating sounds that Massive is capable of.

    Cheers.
     
  13. Balthazaar

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    All you need is massive,eq,chorus,flanger,and any distortion unit,and from that experimentation is the key..
     
  14. dieiscast

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    thanks for all the help!

    so i made a bass which is ok for now (not perfect yet but for the first try this is enough):



    but now i'm stuck again. i would like some movement / rhythm to the bassline. i tried several things but i don't come closs. i would like to achieve something like this:



    any tips? which filter should i try? should i filter the whole bass or just some frequencies? should i try to achieve this movement already in massive or with further processing?

    sorry, this questions might be stupid, but it's really hard to get startet...
     
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    take the reece you made and add put a notch filter on it, randomly atumate it, also add a bunch of effects flanges, filters moving etc. Bounce a long section of randomness (all one note) say 30 seconds worth.

    Put the bounce in to kontakt, find a section that sounds liek a stab that runs into a cool short "wha" type sound, loop the wha after the stab gets plays ...so the sound goes "Stab wha wha wha wha wha", then turn ur pitch bend on and play notes while working the picth bend. After that rinse and repeat, add effects filters etc

    be carefull you might loop mong for a while once you start playing the pitch/looped reece ;)
     
  16. d-low

    d-low I know you got soul

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    dude IMO that is too heavily processed for your overall bass, you want to split your reece into 3 different layers (lows, mids and tops) and only phase/flange your very top layer that much not on the whole thing. anyway there is 2.2 million threads on this already so its ridiculous we are having this conversation
     
  17. dieiscast

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    i don't think you read my question...
     
  18. dieiscast

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    thanks a lot for all your contributions! i managed to get it in the right direction... it's not perfect yet, but i'm working on it :)

    at the moment it sounds like this:



    feedbacks are welcome!