beginer advice

Discussion in 'Production' started by brum09, Oct 1, 2009.

  1. brum09

    brum09 Member

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    hi evryone thanks for opening my thread, basicaly im working overseas atm so iv saved a fair bit of cash and had way to much time to think and im due home in a month iv bin listening to a lot of drum and bass while iv bin away and i realy want to have a go at producing my own tracks so can you tell me what il need, software, hardware etc cus iv had a look but i dont realy no what i need and whats crap :confused:. cheers
     
  2. richie_stix

    richie_stix gomby plz

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    well, i love ableton live so i would advise that... but best bet is to get a demo of all the main DAWs such as logic (mac only), fruity loops, reason, cubase etc and see what YOU like?
     
  3. brum09

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    how about cake walk?
     
  4. Mr Fletch

    Mr Fletch aka KRONIX

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    From personal experience, if you are just starting out, I think Fruity Loops is the most user friendly. However, that being said, I also think fruity loops is the least proffesional sounding (thats not saying you cannot produce a proffesional sound out of it! But you have to know what you are doing in terms of mastering the sounds!).

    Steinberg's Cubase or Nuendo sound amazing, but if you are just starting out, these can be very daunting and difficult to master!

    There are so many different types of production software out there that you will not be able to get a definate answer from any of us here. Most will simply tell you what they think is best, and what they use.

    Your best bet would be to download the demo's of each, play around with them, and see which one you feel most comfortable with.

    Good luck, and welcome to the world of music creation!
     
  5. Producr

    Producr Producr

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    For me the essentials are cubase and a midi keyboard. The rest is just plugins, samples, and soft synths, of which many decent ones can be found for free.
     
  6. MrWoggles

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    Start off with FL. Easy to learn, cheap and with lifetime free updates. Lot of big name producers such as Deadmau5, Spor and Skream use it. If you later down the path feel like it isn't enough for you then try options such as cubase or logic.

    Hardware wise I would get a midi keyboard, the oxygen 8 v2 will do just fine, fantastic, can be used in combination with your keyboard and a channel splitter + mono to stereo converters to DJ.

    If you can afford it, monitor speakers will help you greatly allowing you to really hear the result of your production work.

    I would also get the vengeance pack so you've got a large number of quality drum hits to start you off, won't really need to look further than that for a year if you ask me.

    Also you'll want to get a good softsynth. Massive, Albino and Predator come recommended.

    Last but not least, you need a good spectrum analyzer. You can get free version but I mention this because VoxengoSpan is my favourite one and has done wonders for my production.

    The whole will be around 700-800quid I reckon and you won't need to buy anything else for a long long time while you learn.
     
  7. Lucidproduction

    Lucidproduction i aint fraid of no ghosts

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    reason 4.0 is also a very user friendly beginers alternative to FruityLoops


    and its much more colorful :)
     
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  8. brum09

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    cheers mr woggles thats pretty much what i thought i would need but whats a spectrum anyliser?
     
  9. MrWoggles

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    In its most basic form all it really is, is a db meter allowing you to see where the different levels of your track across the entire human sound spectrum. It's just really useful for seeing what parts you can get more sound from and where different frequencies are hitting. As you become more advanced in your production you will begin to understand its uses and will probably come to rely on it quite a bit.
     
  10. Producr

    Producr Producr

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    In terms of softsynths, z3ta+ is one of the best. Better than massive once you get the hang of it.
     
  11. Mr Fletch

    Mr Fletch aka KRONIX

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    I've heard alot of praise for Z3ta+, but I cant grasp it! Some of the presets sound nice, but if I have a sound in my head, I wouldnt know where to begin to try and recreate it!
     
  12. CH3SH

    CH3SH CH3SH - Naphalm Audio

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    Its a case of having a look at what feels right for you
    From personal experisense i used Reason 4 for 3 years
    Then found Fl8 for 2 months follwed by extensive Cubsase usage
    Have a large collection of VST's which all adds to me library of sounds =]
    Now im very happy =]
    I recently purchased an Mbox2 Package from ebay for £200
    And a pair of Mackie Hr824 MkII's for £800
    Plus my mum jus upgrade her TFT monitor so i aquired her old on for extended screen!
    I also found Youtube a helping hand with tutorials,
    Not the ones from all the commercial Dj's but the ones from all the unknown Dj's =]
     
  13. T Leaf

    T Leaf Neighbourhood Sickhead

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    if its professional sounds you are after

    www.buzzmachines.com <- free but very very complicated to start with. the sound however is incredible in the synthesis.

    if it is ease of use

    Fruity Loops <- easier, but it took... ...no stole, alot of ideas and stuff from jeskola buzz. (if you look carefully at FL in its effects/generaters list it even allows you to import buzz architecture, machines, effects, gear etc through a buzz adapter)

    All in all why not get both :)

    buy FL and download your free buzz too
     
  14. Producr

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    I guess if you've found soemthing else that works for you then use that. For me z3ta+ always gives a really nice sound but so can most things if you know how to use them to their best.
     
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    Protoplasym Nuskool

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    Why is it better?
     
  16. Producr

    Producr Producr

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    I find the sound quality to be better. It's waveshaping ability allows you to create a far greater variety of sounds and I believe it gives more oscillators.

    Massive is often used to create wobbling bass with the performer LFO, which it is good for, but imo you can often hear that something is made in massive.

    Plus i think zeta's cheaper so that's another plus.
     
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  17. KEMZ

    KEMZ Blatant Royal Status

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    it also gives you the ability to record WAVs without any any other bits software. you can just use them stand alone and make samples.

    Pentagon 1 is wicked synth and so is that Sfz+ thing. they free as far as im aware