Music production courses.

Lucidproduction

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you can go to most colleges and study music and music tech BUT you are gonna learn alot of shit that is irrelivant to making music as ur studying all the jobs of the music industry (not just being the artist)

im starting a course in september mainly for something to do with my life until im happy with my production but i will learn a few things along the way...

not that one should ever do such things illegaly but if you can get sum software ie Fruity logic or reason then you can pretty much study it yourself and learn how to produce by yourself...

i think watching videos and reading tutorials online is gonna give you alot more help producing than studying music at college but i havnt started yet so i cant garantee dat


start looking it up online start with youtube!!!
 
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If you have the wedge then SAE, plus you'll make amazing contacts. Bu I agree with everyoe else, having a few bits of decent equipment and software and learning by internet/books/traila and error, would be a better use of money.
 

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Most audio courses won't teach you the basics. I highly recommend reading magazines like "computer music" or "future music", Get orientated with at least one or two DAWs (Reason / Cubase / Protools / Logic / Ableton / Cakewalk) Then you will be ready for audio school. I have a buddy from my city here in Canada that is in London right now studying at Alchemea, he is learning lots, and surrounding himself with talented people, making good connections. I have also heard SAE is a really good school too.

But if you live there you don't have to take a full course load, take a short specialty course on the DAW of your choice, wet your lips and see if your appetite will ensue!
 
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i have a question to the english guys here. In germany only opportunities to hear music related courses seems to be SAE or a university study course. We dont have institutions like college. SAE seems really expensive, study course lasts for 5 years here and u have big preconditions, entrance examinations, u have to play a distinct classical instrument.

So as far as i understood in uk u have many colleges besides university offering courses about this without this hints. Also read producers like goldie and exile offers seminars casually. But what u get there actually and how long does this training last? 1,2,3 years? Can u choose single courses about mastering, sound design, music theory, DSP, etc...?

Do u get any degree. The SAE degree isnt publically accredited afaik. I mean producing music is popular, high demand from every education level, but there are also some tricky aspects like mastering or DSP, where u have to bother with math, programming, acoustics, psychoacoustics, physics. Is such stuff covered in these courses or do u have to a uk university to learn about this. Music is an art and i dont think generally u need heavy preparatory training like studying natural sciences. But some of these courses seem to be only about learning a DAW, marketing by powerpoint presentations, no practical exercises, pretty sketchily teaching stuff. Ableton/Reason have pretty detailed manual, more covered in it as in any utube viddy i saw. Thats not what im interested in investing so much time in a course, rather the heavy technical and music theoretical aspects.

Anyone here can say how profound these college, SAE courses are?

thx
 
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A mate of mine did did the music tech foundation and then Music Tech Degree at uni and it's a proper engineers degree so there's a lot of maths and pyhsics involved. Very practical and he spent a shit load of time in the studios (even sleeping in his car and eventually get cabin fever...)

In the UK, you have the option of doing anything. The college I used to work in did Music Tech NVQ/BTEC/AVCE as well as First Diplomas and National Diplomas. THese range from the very basics (different mic shapes and the reasons for them) to touching on degree level (Sound Proofing/Acoustics).#

As mentioned you can go to private colleges and learn single aspects of Music Tech (Modules on Matering, Mixdown, Sampling etc) or about specific bits of software or equipment.

Private Vs Public. Private will cost a lot more, however they have a lot better equipment. However as you are an EU student, your fees may be higher than a British student so you may end up paying similar prices at a public uni/college as you would at a private. The Private qualifications are recognised as much as public/accredited qualifications are. As for public uni's, then Kingston do a good Music Tech course (I have a mate that does Music Composistion there and says the equipment is pretty good for a public uni. Also Kingston College and South Thames College (where I used to work) do Music Tech courses that give accredited qualifications and both colleges have links with Unis to progress on to Degrees.
 

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Im startin my course in september this year - digital music at brighton university, will let you know if that course is helpful improving production skills
 

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i have a question to the english guys here. In germany only opportunities to hear music related courses seems to be SAE or a university study course. We dont have institutions like college. SAE seems really expensive, study course lasts for 5 years here and u have big preconditions, entrance examinations, u have to play a distinct classical instrument.

So as far as i understood in uk u have many colleges besides university offering courses about this without this hints. Also read producers like goldie and exile offers seminars casually. But what u get there actually and how long does this training last? 1,2,3 years? Can u choose single courses about mastering, sound design, music theory, DSP, etc...?

Do u get any degree. The SAE degree isnt publically accredited afaik. I mean producing music is popular, high demand from every education level, but there are also some tricky aspects like mastering or DSP, where u have to bother with math, programming, acoustics, psychoacoustics, physics. Is such stuff covered in these courses or do u have to a uk university to learn about this. Music is an art and i dont think generally u need heavy preparatory training like studying natural sciences. But some of these courses seem to be only about learning a DAW, marketing by powerpoint presentations, no practical exercises, pretty sketchily teaching stuff. Ableton/Reason have pretty detailed manual, more covered in it as in any utube viddy i saw. Thats not what im interested in investing so much time in a course, rather the heavy technical and music theoretical aspects.

Anyone here can say how profound these college, SAE courses are?

thx
you wont rele do production (like making beats) at SAE,
you will do a basic midi intro, basic mixers, signal flow, physics, maths, advanced signal flow, post production, 8 track project, 24 track project.
you can either do a diploma in a year or a degree in 2.

I went there, but pretty much hated it. but thats just me. and it costs sooooo much
 

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i just finished a 3 year course at access to music in brighton and i learnt a hell of alot to do with production, you will do some heavy projects there, remix top artists tunes, make your own (obviously) and record and mix down live tracks and shit. look it up mate, i enjoyed my time there
 

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Im hitting Northbrook College in Worthing in September! Bangin college for the course, what they specialise in.

100's of pc's/macs to work on, set of decks to mix your beats, 10 or so private lobbys for you to work on a beat in your break with top software and hardware!! Well loking forward to it..

Ha, Mum just boguth my timetable in as we speak!
 
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