These are the breaks.......

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I thought id start this thread as there is a lot of talk of breaks... but no one ever seems to mention the original tracks.

So hear we go, hear are the original tracks that the breaks youve heard time and time again were sampled from.......



First up we have the break of all breaks...... you guessed it..... The Amen.

It is by far the most sampled break of all time, not just sampled by DnB producers but by producers of all genres, the good example of this break being used in another genre that you have probably already heard is in NWA's "Strait Outta Compton"

The break its self comes from a 1969 track titled "Amen Brother" by a band called The Winstons. It was released on the B-Side of a 7" 45 single called "Color Him Father" on Metromedia Records.

The Amen break on Wiki......


The Winstons




The Winstons - Amen Brother
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZuq57_bYM

Nate Harrison on the Amen Break
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac



I will post more like this if anyones interested.... also feel free to add some too
 

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Second up, we have another widely sampled break, in fact, a set of breaks..... the Think breaks


Taken from a track called "Think (About It)" by Lyn Collins, from her 1972 album which shares the title.

There is 4 drum breaks in this track, and also a tambourine break that is also widely sampled.

An example of a track that uses breaks from this track is Origin Unknown's Valley Of The Shadows released on Ram.

A recent example of another genre using these breaks is Dizzie Rascal's track Pussy 'Ole.

GTA players may recognise this song from the San Andreas soundtrack ;)

Lyn Collins on Wiki......




Lyn Collins - Think (About It)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHnCV9MUjD8
 

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I thought id start this thread as there is a lot of talk of breaks... but no one ever seems to mention the original tracks.

So hear we go, hear are the original tracks that the breaks youve heard time and time again were sampled from.......



First up we have the break of all breaks...... you guessed it..... The Amen.

It is by far the most sampled break of all time, not just sampled by DnB producers but by producers of all genres, the good example of this break being used in another genre that you have probably already heard is in NWA's "Strait Outta Compton"

The break its self comes from a 1969 track titled "Amen Brother" by a band called The Winstons. It was released on the B-Side of a 7" 45 single called "Color Him Father" on Metromedia Records.

The Amen break on Wiki......


The Winstons




The Winstons - Amen Brother
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr8a81QgbkM

Nate Harrison on the Amen Break
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac



I will post more like this if anyones interested.... also feel free to add some too
wow, that second video was extremely educational... thanks for this...
 

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Third instalment.... another break that has been sampled to death.... the almighty Apache break.

Taken from a track on Michael Viner's Incredible Bongo Band's 1973 album Bongo Rock, from a track titled.... you guessed it.... Apache.

The Incredible Bongo Bands Version was a cover of a track originally released in 1960 by The Shadows.

The Apache break is definitely one of the most sampled breaks of all time, and has been referred to as "hip hops national anthem", the break has been used in hip hop since hip hop first began in the late 70's by artists including Grandmaster Flash, Kool Herc, and West Street Mob

In Drum & Bass, the Apache break has sampled numerous times by Shy FX alone, as well as other artists. Two good examples would be Shy FX's This Style and of course..... Mad Apache.

In Hip Hop the break has been sampled more times than you could shake a leg at, but one early example isWest Street Mob's Breakdancin' - Electric Boogie on Sugarhill Records.

Michael Viner's Incredible Bongo Band on Wiki....


Michael Viner's Incredible Bongo Band - Apache
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY-Z6wm6TMQ

The Shadows - Apache
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY-rPDwzM9M

Shy FX - Mad Apache

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QODg1h5fVY

Shy FX - This Style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt5fwMyBPo

West Street Mob - Breakdancin' - Electric Boogie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMlaYTbmv8I
 

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haha , buzzed me reading and listening to them , not heard the original amen bros yet. ... respect for the post, unfortunately i dont know of any , hopefully others will add some though ,:andy:
 

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The Tramen Break as described on Wikipedia (cheating a bit, I know but thought it was useful to add!!):

Although also known by various other names (including the firefight, dramen and domen), tramen is easily the most widespread name. The name came by combining "Trace" (the artist who first popularised the break) and "amen" (the component break which is most distinctive and recognisable).

However, whilst the break is frequently credited to Trace, this is in fact an oft-repeated fallacy. The original creator was Dom and Roland, as Trace explained himself:

It is a beat Dom made, that he hadn't used yet. When I heard it I was like, "That's the beat we need to use for Mutant Jazz Revisited. I then used it on Sonar and on Sniper where it was left it clean for 16 bars on the intro - this is where everyone ripped it from. As long as people know that it's a Dom beat. Because I used it on 3 tracks I got associated with it... The Tramen tag is something that Fresh started when he started rinsing it after we made Nitrous."

The tramen is generally known as a combination of the Amen break (from "Amen Brother", by The Winstons) with the break from "Tighten Up" by Archie Bell & the Drells. However in an interview with Knowledge Magazine, Dom confirmed it also used a third, harder to hear, element: the "Pulp Fiction" break, which was itself a second-generation breakbeat, made by Alex Reece for a remix of Model 500's "The Flow".

Artists who are particularly notable for their use of the tramen include Trace, Dom and Roland, Bad Company and Technical Itch.
 

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good post, vid to accompany it......

Archie Bell & The Drells - Tighten Up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjVQOYdHcgo

Got any knowledge on the "Worm" break?
erm, the worm??? i know of the track "Funky Worm" by Ohio Players..... that the one?? you got any audio?

an article on adam f circles would be cool! :D thats my favourite break in the worlddddd!
I was gonna do that one already, couldnt find a vid on you tube though, the break is from Kurtis Blow's "Do The Do"..... might have to upload it to youtube myself..... it will come though, hold tight!!!
 

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The Tramen Break as described on Wikipedia (cheating a bit, I know but thought it was useful to add!!):

Although also known by various other names (including the firefight, dramen and domen), tramen is easily the most widespread name. The name came by combining "Trace" (the artist who first popularised the break) and "amen" (the component break which is most distinctive and recognisable).

However, whilst the break is frequently credited to Trace, this is in fact an oft-repeated fallacy. The original creator was Dom and Roland, as Trace explained himself:

It is a beat Dom made, that he hadn't used yet. When I heard it I was like, "That's the beat we need to use for Mutant Jazz Revisited. I then used it on Sonar and on Sniper where it was left it clean for 16 bars on the intro - this is where everyone ripped it from. As long as people know that it's a Dom beat. Because I used it on 3 tracks I got associated with it... The Tramen tag is something that Fresh started when he started rinsing it after we made Nitrous."

The tramen is generally known as a combination of the Amen break (from "Amen Brother", by The Winstons) with the break from "Tighten Up" by Archie Bell & the Drells. However in an interview with Knowledge Magazine, Dom confirmed it also used a third, harder to hear, element: the "Pulp Fiction" break, which was itself a second-generation breakbeat, made by Alex Reece for a remix of Model 500's "The Flow".

Artists who are particularly notable for their use of the tramen include Trace, Dom and Roland, Bad Company and Technical Itch.
I may have written that.
 

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erm, the worm??? i know of the track "Funky Worm" by Ohio Players..... that the one?? you got any audio?
on second thoughts...... the worm..... is that the one with the 4/4 cowbell??? i know the track.... i just cant think of it, when i remember i'll post it

I may have written that.
cool, the man knows his shit!! :bigupyerself:
 

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Good thread!

More and more I'm listening to Old Soul, 1, cos I love it, 2, cos that tingle you get when you recognise a sample / break, even if you don't know the tracks or where you've heard it before etc, just that moment of recognition.
 

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Next up is the "Hot Pants" break.....


This break comes from a track named "Hot Pants (Bonus Beats)" relased in 1987, which was an instrumental mix of the track "Hot Pants - I'm Coming, I'm Coming, I'm Coming" by Bobby Byrd, released on Brownstone Records in 1972. Its another heavily sampled track thats featured in the GTA San Andreas soundtrack.



Bobby Byrd is said to be the man who discovered James Brown. Byrd was the founder and frontman of a group called The Avons, which James Brown joined in the mid 1950's, The Avons later became known as The Flames, and then The Famous Flames with James Brown becoming the frontman.



The Hot Pants break has been sampled in many tracks including Q-Project's Champion Sound (Alliance Remix) and MA2's Rollers Music...... I also think the break is used in The Stone Roses track Fools Gold

Bobby Byrd - Hot Pants - I'm Coming, I'm Coming, I'm Coming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVl4nAWiShc

Q-Project - Champion Sound (Alliance Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLFbDLVxk_M

The Stone Roses - Fools Gold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4bHMVAKDao
 

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Does anyone know the origin of the break from "Urban Shakedown - Some Justice"

Come on you KNOW this one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhcOD85EfsU :rslayer:

Even if its 100% drum machine - who first came up with it on a drum machine?

This beat still kicks ass now in 2008 and always will.

I already know the singing came from Ce Ce Rogers.

Its the beat I am arsed about in this Urban Shakedown!

I had a sample CD with that breakbeat on it, "Future Music" magazine from way back, issue #2 or something when the mag just started.
 
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Originally Posted by LeveL
Does anyone know the origin of the break from "Urban Shakedown - Some Justice" - Yeah Its by Run DMC cant remember the name of the tune...its their break as far as I am aware

Originally Posted by Greg P
Got any knowledge on the "Worm" break? - This is Jimmy Mc Griff - The Worm.

J.
 
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