ya know like the type original sin n the like shave in their tunes!! im usin zeta, blue, massive n predator... ive tried my hardest adjust the filter, then adjustin the envelope on the cut off for the filter and all them but still cannot get a sound tha can be used in a tune. its startin to piss me off coz i know all it will take is someone to go 'ahhhh just do this' and then it'll be sorted! i know im not far off but i just cannot find that sweet spot that gives me that sound! And with a wobble..... same really... cant get a sound worth doin and ive noticed lfo'in on some basses ive made just doesnt give a wobble. is there a rule to follow b4 a bassline will wobble out? like the first wobble on killers dont die.... i just cant seem to get that kinda sound. im not tryin to copy hazard or the likes i just wanna know how its done so i can experiment down that route! Sorry to sound noobish, im far from a noob but these lil nigglin things are startin to really get on my nerves any help plz?