curious signalchain

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  1. logikz

    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    heres a fun setup which we have at my place right now, splinter brought all his equipment over
    so we got the most curious signal chain going and the results are sooooo nice.
    we got it all set up with cables and effect units, so i got the idea you could probably do the same but with vsts if you wanted to,
    and heres is a run through using only free vsts

    youll need an audio editor like wavelab or audacity or audition or soundforge.

    vsts:

    audio damage rough rider

    edit: whilst rough rider is great and free, the compressor we need for this job has to have a gate on it,
    alternatively you add a gate plug after the compressor


    SiR (reverb)
    FSR simplescape (its got LP to HP morph on it :love:)
    kajerhus chorus
    analogic delay
    (we dont have a hardware delay but im not that interested in
    hardware delay and reverbs, the software is just fine imo)

    i havent got free suggestions for these yet (other than kajerhus of course):

    autowah
    flanger
    dist plug
    parametric 3 band eq with gain
    top end exciter of some kind
    gate, if necessary

    there are heaps of good ones out there though, just check gersic.com

    it might seem like its mainly for synths but this works really good for drums too,
    mainly because the autowah will create transients on hihats and congas and similar,
    which the compressor will bring out together with the reverb.
    so sample a long session and cut out the hits that are good


    process and signal chain:

    load sample,

    parametric eq with gain -> overdrive->
    autowah -> reverb -> compressor -> parametric eq with gain

    resample, cut out the good bits, then

    exciter, chorus, filter -> parametric eq with gain

    resample, cut to taste


    notes:

    easy on the reverb and autowah, chorus is mainly for high frequency sounds and basses.
    well add the flanger and/or delay last normally, if there is a need for them at all.

    run basses breaks and stuff through this, its been bare profit for us
     
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    perspective Sex Drugs & Sausage Rolls

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    ooh, sounds tasty... have you got any scrumptious nuggets of audio to post?
     
  3. logikz

    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    we wrote an entire tune this weekend, ill shoot you a sendspace link tomorrow brah
     
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    Reactor Grits lick a shot

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    proper doctoration. bring that tune tomorrow. and my shit. ya know.
     
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    kama benkama.net

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    Heh my hardware "drool list" is starting to pile up... Now to get some cashflow my way. Maybe I'll start pushing speed on the corner.

    Will try this though. :smash:
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    if you do get some nice sounds out of this, post some audio ok? ill holler on aim eppu
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    here we go i did this last night with some old funk breaks, an 808 and a sample from garden of passion http://www.sendspace.com/file/kgzh7r
    the stuff at the end sucks though, its work in progress. ill have the other tune online later today
     
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    Reactor Grits lick a shot

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    would be nice if you could give us a lil workshop of this tonight mane
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    yeah man we should give it a go tonight, id love to see how this pans out with vsts
     
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    kama benkama.net

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    I LOVE IT.
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    thanks a lot bro, glad you like it! i just remembered yesterday the compressor has to have a gate on it, gating a drumhit after its been reverb is pretty damn awesome
     
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    Reactor Grits lick a shot

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    hypothesis confirmed. going in my studio bible!
     
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    kama benkama.net

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    that does wonders for bass too, if you have that just a little too "synthetic" sounding bass, it adds some durrrty to it.
     
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    gating your hits is important....
    DNB is fast... you need to clean the hits
    up in order to keep space in your mix for
    more sounds...
     
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    BeeOtch Coming up

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    noob question:
    What is a Gate or gating?
    and how do i do it in Fruity Loops?

    Edit:// Forgot something: WICKED TUNE! Like it :)
     
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    kama benkama.net

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    A gate is a dynamic control that allows you to cut out low levels from a signal - it only lets through sounds that are loud enough, above a certain treshold you can define yourself. So if you have a drum hit that has a long 'tail' to it, you can shorten that tail and retain a somewhat natural sound with a gate. The advantage to cutting sounds manually is that you can drive any signals through a gate and they all have the same attack and release values (you can adjust these on most gates, at least the release).
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    Reactor Grits lick a shot

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    The sister sidechain plugin from this one is what I use to sidechain with in cubase as well now. Very good plugs, and free once again.
     
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    BeeOtch Coming up

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    hm I downloaded it... there are now two sidechain plugins in my Fruity Loops Browser...st(ereo) and Mono ( I have version 8 ...) and the moment I open one of them into a Mixer - Effects - Channel my FL dies... it doesn't do anything anymore...
    Tried it 5 times now... Even left it working for 5 minutes but it died... where is the problem? Anyone an Idea?

    Greets,
    Beeotch
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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