WW3 - 2012 ...

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  1. EWOKS

    EWOKS POTATOES GONNA POTATE

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    http://www.eutimes.net/2011/12/china-joins-russia-orders-military-to-prepare-for-world-war-iii/

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-16063607

    its not looking good is it ..

    i mean, it cant continue the way it is, and its not going to get any better .. so anyone with half a brain knows , in the economic decline, chinas rise is power, middle east becoming more voltile, with israel attacking iran ..

    nuclear extinction ..

    what does everyone else think ... is a massive nuclear war on our doorsteps ?? get ready for the flash of white and to be vapourised i say ..

    don ya tin hats boys ! :spam:
     
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  2. Mr Fletch

    Mr Fletch aka KRONIX

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    yeah, we're fucked....
     
  3. MARKLAR

    MARKLAR International Tracksuit Salesman

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    to be honest a nuclear war wouldnt be as bad as shit loads of soldiers comin in
    aslong as u were in the blast radius of a bomb otherwise ur fucked witha slow horrible radiation poisoning death.lol

    this is quite scary tho
    wonder whos side russia would take they got most nukes
    edit just clicked link an russias on chinas side we all gonna die.lol
     
  4. EWOKS

    EWOKS POTATOES GONNA POTATE

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    yes russia and china have got each others back .. past week its gotten really really bad ..

    and yeah, in a way, i guess .. getting nuked . would be better than a swarm of chinese running through the town killing everyone in sight.
     
  5. MARKLAR

    MARKLAR International Tracksuit Salesman

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    also i think that eutimes article has a load of bullshit in it
    like that spanish flu thing thats the first ive ever heard that is was man made
    and plenty of other shit in it
     
  6. EWOKS

    EWOKS POTATOES GONNA POTATE

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    check the bbc link then, bit more believable .. and other news, its definitely kicking off ..
     
  7. SIRUS

    SIRUS 変なひと

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    Never going to happen.

    Chinese hackers are probably more of a threat as they cost the economy billions.
     
  8. EWOKS

    EWOKS POTATOES GONNA POTATE

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    please elaborate why its never going to happen? .. what do you know about israel and iran .. ?

    id honestly appreciate a good answer to put my mind at rest ..
     
  9. MARKLAR

    MARKLAR International Tracksuit Salesman

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    if the chinese took over id kill myself
    after listening to that cunt waffle on for a bit felt like my ears were in pain
     
  10. SIRUS

    SIRUS 変なひと

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    No in depth answer. It's just a nuclear war would just be too insane to start, it's global suicide.
     
  11. EWOKS

    EWOKS POTATOES GONNA POTATE

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    yeah. but your thinking like a rational and (semi)sane guy ... israel and iran have said they would do everything they can to ensure the other is wiped off the face of the earth. duke nukem. never say never.. because its round the corner.
     
  12. $marty

    $marty Dexcell Staff Member

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    I think things would have to get stupidly bad for the nukes to start dropping.
     
  13. mr karnage

    mr karnage deep inside the jungle

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    i rate the iranian president, hes going up against isreal and america and aint backing down.
     
  14. Harry3

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    in some ways i agree about this, the whole USA/Israel thing is a massive fucking joke

    but, the Iranian president (cant spell or pronounce his name so i wont even try) is a fucking maniac who I wouldnt trust with a cap gun. But then Bush was pretty fucking stupid too.

    China can suck a bag of dicks with its atrocious human rights agenda
     
  15. dirty breaks

    dirty breaks Guest

    A nuke would only be used as the final move in a fight that has slowed to a stalemate, for example in Japan and America's war in the pacific in 1945, which resulted in the hiroshima and nagasaki A-bomb attacks.
     
  16. MARKLAR

    MARKLAR International Tracksuit Salesman

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    pretty sure the a bomb attacks was also them wanting to see how good they are.lol
     
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    if i did get the opportunity to choose my death then i'd choose to get nuked in the face
     
  18. MARKLAR

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    if i could choose your death it would be radiation poisoning
     
  19. Joey AdhD

    Joey AdhD sweaty scouser

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    domt worry, the world aint gonna end anytime soon, as we all know, McFly have been to the year 3000 so we are safe till then at least.
     
  20. Fire starter

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    This may shed some light on the whole israel vs iran thing. Although the whole middle east thing is far to complex. It's not just the conflict between iran and israel that may happen but also the whole suni vs shite hatred that has been building up since the early stages of islam.

    "The headlines have been filled with speculation of either a U.S. or an Israeli strike against Iran’s nuclear sites. When George Bush was in the White House, many analysts had determined that it could go either way. However, the election of Barack Obama changed the odds in the minds of many.

    One thought that did not seem to change was that no one wanted a nuclear weapon in the hands of the Iranians—especially under the watch of the current regime. So the focus of debate has been squarely placed on Israel’s newly elected Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, and his “war cabinet”—the largest cabinet in Israel’s political history.

    Netanyahu is responding to the attention by keeping the nuclear issue at the forefront of world attention; albeit with an intriguing set of twists and turns. It was recently released to the Israeli media that the Obama administration has told Is-rael that it may not attack Iran without U.S. permission and that Israel had agreed to this requirement.

    This sentiment was echoed in the intelligence community briefings. Many analysts have written that an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities is logistically impractical for the follow-ing reasons:

    • Israeli Air Force (IAF) capabilities would be stretched to its limits.

    • The effort would only “cripple” and not “destroy” Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

    • Israel would require U.S. approval to fly over Iraqi air space, putting both Washington and Baghdad in com-plex and delicate negotiations.

    While verbally seeming to be in agreement with these sentiments, Israel followed up their words with a different set of actions. Israel has recently completed very real practical and logistical practice runs over the Mediterranean to determine the challenges associated with an attack on Iranian nuclear sites.

    One such long-range military air exercise was monitored by foreign intelligence agencies and involved more than 100 F-15 and F-16 fighters, refueling tankers, and helicopters to rescue downed pilots. The tankers and helicopters flew 900 miles from their bases in Israel—roughly the same distance between Israel and Iran’s uranium enrichment plant at Natanz. The Israeli Air Force (IAF) also completed exercises that tested against missile and jet strikes from Syria and Iran.

    To further keep Iran (and the world) guessing as to Israel’s intent, these successful runs were followed up with the largest-ever five-day nationwide emergency exercise to prepare the country for a “doomsday scenario” of simultaneous strikes against Israel on all fronts. The exercise was called “Turning Point 3” and entailed:

    1. A simulated Cabinet meeting, in which the ministers practiced rapid decision making on several scenarios, including a series of Palestinian suicide bombings; simultaneous war with Hezbollah, Syria and Hamas; and, conventional, chemical and biological attacks against large population centers.

    2. Local officials, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), government ministries, Israel Police, the National Emergency Authority and the Home Front Command joined the exercise on the second day.

    3. The entire Israeli citizenry was brought into the simulation on the third day—air raid sirens sounded at 11 a.m. for all citizens to find their way to bomb shelters.

    4. The National Cabinet and the national information and data management system were tested on the fourth day.

    5. IDB units and the Home Front Command conducted field exercises on the last day.

    There were plenty of witnesses as seventy officials from France, the United States, Japan, Hungary, Germany and Uruguay were on hand to monitor the exercises. It was obvious to the witnesses that while Turning Point 3 had genuine utility as a civil defense exercise, there were also strong psychological operations elements that were directed at Iran. In the midst of these exercises, the Israeli media steadily leaked reports that hinted of a scenario in which Israel could become fed up with U.S. diplomatic efforts and launch a uni-lateral strike against Iran. While Netanyahu is sending a message that Israel is willing to take big risks and is preparing itself for the backlash that would accompany a military strike against Iran, Obama attempted to create the perception that his administration is not afraid to stand up to Israel on several issues.

    It remains to be seen if this apparent struggle between Netanyahu and Obama represents a real change in the U.S. stance toward support for Israel, or if it is a political ploy of deliberate misinformation to keep Iran off balance.

    In either case, a glimpse into Israel’s National Security Doctrine, Operation Military Doctrine and Nuclear Policy clearly leave no doubt as to its “intent” if pushed far enough by Iran. While Israel presently maintains its status as an Undeclared Nuclear Weapon State, it is universally recognized as possessing a very sophisticated arsenal of nuclear weapons.

    Israel believes Iran will create a nuclear weapon before 2012. The U.S. assumes the time frame to be after 2013. Based upon its Nuclear Policy assumptions, Israel views Iran as an “existential threat” and must be dealt with before nu-clear capability is achieved.

    Israel may choose to stand alone in its attempt to contain Iran’s nuclear aspirations. The motivation for Israel to take the risk of a unilateral attack on Iran may be viewed within the context of Iran meeting the following factors:

    A reasonable expectation that by 2010 Iran could pose a serious threat to its neighbors and Israel by creating enough of an inventory of nuclear weapons to deter an Israeli strike.
    Iran obtains a modern surface-to-air missile (SAM) defense system, such as the Russian S-300 PMU2—Favorit (currently in negotiation)—giving Iran an advanced Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) capability in addition to an advanced SAM Air Defense System.
    Development of a maritime capability to threaten commercial shipping and Naval Forces in the Persian Gulf and possibly interrupt the flow of oil through the Straits of Hormuz.
    Possession of highly accurate short, medium and long range ballistic missiles capable of carrying Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD).
    Use of a number of trained and controlled counter insurgency groups to increase the threat of asymmetric attacks against Israel (part of the scenario of the Turning Point 3 exercises).
    A recent study indicates that although the task is daunting, a military strike by Israel is possible utilizing a flight pattern along the Syrian-Turkish border, then over a small portion of Iraq, then into Iran and back the same route.

    The mission’s success would obviously be based upon utilization of the required number of aircraft, refueling capability en route, and getting to targets without being detected or intercepted."



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