which new carts to go for

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  1. the_cheeky_scam

    the_cheeky_scam ragamuffin biznizz

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    ok, have finally got some reddies together to buy some decent carts (am rocking 7 year old 500ALs at the mo!)
    but am stumped as to what to go for. i have narrowed it down to the following three;

    Stanton groovemaster II pro
    Ortofon Concorde Nightclub E
    Shure whitelabels

    advice please....

    EDIT - btw i play old jungle and don't scratch a lot so am more bothered about caring for my vinyl than about tracking
     
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  2. mISHKA

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    go for some Ortofon Concorde S, the blue ones
     
  3. sdm

    sdm This is Dog Fort

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    Ortofon Concorde's (y)
     
  4. Serum

    Serum Well-Known Member

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    Shure whitelabels
    Ortofons are the worst for your vinyl
     
  5. the_cheeky_scam

    the_cheeky_scam ragamuffin biznizz

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    see, my mate said the same thing - he had concorde djs, but got shot of them in favour of trackmasters - i thought he must be mistaken, ortofon are so established as a brand leader, i've used them in clubs and thought them ok. thing is i've used trackmasters and liked them too.
    i've not used the whitelabels, but i hear VERY good things about them...
    all in all, i'm lost!
     
  6. Triple M

    Triple M Admin

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    Yeah defo the Concordes!

    My standard black 'Pro' Concordes last about 5+ years without the sound degrading (y)
     
  7. zeeky deek

    zeeky deek Moaning all the time.

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    Either Whitelabels or M44-7 from Shure
     
  8. JimJapBap

    JimJapBap Member

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    Shure has always given me the best results, get m447's if you want a deeper more bassy sound, while whitelabels have very accented highs and mids. A lot of people tell me the long groovemaster type cartridges put your records through the most wear so you might wanna stear clear of those.
     
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    $marty Dexcell Staff Member

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    ortofon concorde DJ S (the blue ones)
    Had mine for time and they stilll be kickin'
     
  10. Indi

    Indi Tha Original ThreadKilla!

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    Defo the Shure's, the white label's if you don't do too many tricks with the vinyl, or the M44-7's if you're into your scratching and that. My friend has some of the white's and the sound quality is absolutely spot on.
     
  11. the_cheeky_scam

    the_cheeky_scam ragamuffin biznizz

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    right... going for the whitelabels. found somewhere that sells pairs for £100.
    i'll let you know how i get on
    (yn)
     
  12. ihurtchildren

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    Good choice.

    "btw i play old jungle and don't scratch a lot so am more bothered about caring for my vinyl than about tracking"

    =

    Whitelabels.

    I've got them. Have them super low weight, and they still track so well. Gorgeous.

    (And I just read they're teebee's favourites too... so they must be ok for scratching etc.)
     
  13. DTR

    DTR the village idiot

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    Where can you get them for £100?
     
  14. the_cheeky_scam

    the_cheeky_scam ragamuffin biznizz

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    an american ebay shop. there's loads offering them
    even including UPS they're £100 a pair
    hooray for the poor state of the american economy!
     
  15. DTR

    DTR the village idiot

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    I'm looking at getting a new mixer from the US. Do you know that if you import anything like that you'll have to pay an extra 3.5% import tax plus 17.5% VAT. On whitelabels you'll only save about 20-30 quid plus you'll have all the agro of trying to get the stuff released from customs
     
  16. the_cheeky_scam

    the_cheeky_scam ragamuffin biznizz

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    nah they'll just mark it as gift.
    works on all the stuff i get from the states
    plus customs only ever check courier delivery.
     
  17. DTR

    DTR the village idiot

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    That's cool then. Let us know how it goes
     
  18. xen

    xen ...innit

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    Just to bring this conversation to the fore again, what kinda stylus do the whitelabels have? I think the Concordes have fairly round stylus ends, I definitely know that they lose high end frequencies but I think that's the expense you pay for a less aggressive groove action...

    What'd be really helpful is a site that gives you audio previews and frequency response charts for all these different types of carts. Anybody know of something like that?

    It could be a project for this site otherwise :D
     
  19. the_cheeky_scam

    the_cheeky_scam ragamuffin biznizz

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    ortofon do on their site, but only for their products...
    the w/ls have a spherical tip
    but it is now irrelevant as;

    SHURE WHITELABELS ARE OFFICIALLY THE MUTT'S NUTS!

    they turned up this morning (and i've had the nastiest day at work waiting to get home and use 'em) ;)

    have just finished an hour or so mix on them... and they are the best pins i've used by a long, long way
    :rave:
     
  20. DTR

    DTR the village idiot

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    That's a really good idea, I like it! ;)

    Glad it worked out for ya! Think I'll have to get some myself ;)