Where to start!?

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Been listening to DnB for a while, love it, and really want to get into making my own little beats. Watched a few videos where the DJs have the crowd goin nuts and it looks magic.

Know I'm not goin to be a pro dj overnight but where the fuck do I start!

keep it real

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It depends what you want to do. If you want to make the tunes themselves, buy (or acquire) some software such as Reason, Cubase, or my personal weapon of choice, Ableton live.

If you want to go down the DJ route, get yourself some cheap DIRECT DRIVE (this is important!) decks and a mixer and get on it. Obviously while buying decks and a mixer wont be cheap, it doesnt have to cost the earth. I bought my PD-1s for £100, blagged a mixer off a mate and away i went. That was 4 years ago now and i still have the decks, been through 3 mixers since then though!
 

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It depends what you want to do. If you want to make the tunes themselves, buy (or acquire) some software such as Reason, Cubase, or my personal weapon of choice, Ableton live. /QUOTE]

Where's the fruity love???

Biatch!! Get fruity loops studio, it's one of the easiest to start out with
 

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Never played with fruity loops, only messed with cubase a little.
Made most of my tunes on reason 3 when i started, now ive got 4 and i use ableton for sequencing, i find its far superior to sequencing wise. That just the way ive progressed, doesnt matter what you use really, its the end result that matters.
 

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it good you decided to get cubase.....
the big "2" emagics logic and seinbergs cubase (and nuendo)
really are in a league of their own...
(cakewalks sonar almost makes it in here)
the compettion is really not up to the
same level as these 2.....

I think its good that people learn on on of
these to as your going to get to a point
with any other sequencer where you realise
how limited it is and its time learn either
cubase or logic (that or you will purchase one
of them to mix everything down in)....
cubase and logic are both
intuitively designed programs and are suitable
for novices through to professionals....

the real power of these sequencers lies in their
ability to handle and shape audio....
learn to work with audio and processing
samples directly in the sequencer....
(serisouly breaks can be chopped in cubase in secs
no other sequncer not even logic is this fast that said
logics automation system is superior to that of
all the other sequencers....)

Both come with an excelllent selection of quality
plugs (the logic convolution reverb "space designer"
is amazing and i steinbergs overdrive is
still my fav distortion plug. Logic definitely wins out
though on the quality of the VSTi's included though)

That said in the end it really is about what you
feel comfortable using. What you can get the best
result with.
For me though i love steinberg sequncers. I find the program
is my basis of comparison to all other sequencers and anytime
i tend to nitpick a fault with another sequencer its generally
due to the fact its not enough like Nuendo...
so i use Nuendo.

But the best place to start is usually at the begining.....
 

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Youtube! Youtube! Youtube!

There is a use for it after all!
You will find loads of tutorials from known artists. Also look on the steinberg website i think there may be some tutorials on there.
 

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Youtube! Youtube! Youtube!

There is a use for it after all!
You will find loads of tutorials from known artists. Also look on the steinberg website i think there may be some tutorials on there.
a bit off topic but, have you seen that video on youtube of that really fat kid dancing to 'Machete' ?? type in 'fat kid machete' and it'll come up. man that is one of the funniest clips on it, you gotta see it
 

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it good you decided to get cubase.....
the big "2" emagics logic and seinbergs cubase (and nuendo)
really are in a league of their own...
(cakewalks sonar almost makes it in here)
the compettion is really not up to the
same level as these 2.....

I think its good that people learn on on of
these to as your going to get to a point
with any other sequencer where you realise
how limited it is and its time learn either
cubase or logic (that or you will purchase one
of them to mix everything down in)....
cubase and logic are both
intuitively designed programs and are suitable
for novices through to professionals....

the real power of these sequencers lies in their
ability to handle and shape audio....
learn to work with audio and processing
samples directly in the sequencer....
(serisouly breaks can be chopped in cubase in secs
no other sequncer not even logic is this fast that said
logics automation system is superior to that of
all the other sequencers....)

Both come with an excelllent selection of quality
plugs (the logic convolution reverb "space designer"
is amazing and i steinbergs overdrive is
still my fav distortion plug. Logic definitely wins out
though on the quality of the VSTi's included though)

That said in the end it really is about what you
feel comfortable using. What you can get the best
result with.
For me though i love steinberg sequncers. I find the program
is my basis of comparison to all other sequencers and anytime
i tend to nitpick a fault with another sequencer its generally
due to the fact its not enough like Nuendo...
so i use Nuendo.

But the best place to start is usually at the begining.....
i use Nuendo aswell, it is the daddy!
 
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Hey guys. I'm kinda in the same boat here. Got Reason the other day and i'm looking at getting an M Audio Oxygen 8 for my midi controller. The thing is i've only got cheap Sony computer speakers (2 speakers and sub cost £30.) Do you think I need to get some monitors to start off with (i'd go for the Alesis Active Mk 2,) and will these plug into my laptop? Bear in mind i'm only starting off and don't have loads of cash to throw about so if I could get away with spending as little as possible it would be good! Any advice would be much appreciated.
 
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Another idea, if you're already a DJ, is getting a really good pair of headphones and using it for both.

A good way to start out learning how to make music is to try to recreate other peoples' tunes. You learn about the structure pretty quick.

In dance music like dnb and hardcore this is especially true - but make note of the different styles, as the structure in liquid is still different than wobble.
 

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I suggest you learn to dj first. It will let you get to know the music a lot better. Best way to learn it. Then when you know the music, you can produce. Its a lot easier to play a track than make one. You'll need five years to have any chance of producing a releasable track but you might be gigging after a couple of months.
 

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You'll need five years to have any chance of producing a releasable track
disagree, if u read interviews with some of the big dnb producers some of them were producing for only 2 - 3 years before getting their first release, really its about how much focus u put into learning and developing urself
 
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