What tempo is it again..

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  1. Phat_Sam

    Phat_Sam Well-Known Member

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    This isnt a call out for a new track review... just to point out to people...

    what the fuck is the tempo to this acapella that Sketcha posted up?

    Mine seems to keep oin out of time!

    fuckin aggrovating...

    here is it:


    Seee what I mean.. i have it at 183bpm at the moment.. whats going on?!

    anyone know the exact bpm?
     
  2. groelle

    groelle Well-Known Member

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    fl says 94.048

    it really is too bad no one sees the superiority of fl.. :D
     
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    Phat_Sam Well-Known Member

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    ok so what... 188. 096?

    thats far too fast surely?
     
  4. ali^

    ali^ Bigtingsagwarn

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    reese in that is really strong mate, like it a lot
     
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    Phat_Sam Well-Known Member

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    cheers ali

    vocals are out of time though yeah?
     
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    groelle Well-Known Member

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    just pitch it up a bit.
     
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    Phat_Sam Well-Known Member

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    well my tempo gauge is fuckin faaaaaaar from on point so i dont wanna mess with the vocals cos any time ive tried that they've fucked up and i've had to start from scratch... urghhhh... what a cunt!

    Sketcha... if ur listening mate... can u find the EXACT tempo for us bruv?
     
  8. ~CriticalWaves~

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    they sound good at points but i think they are a little too fast and i think your starting point might be off a little its kinda hard to tell exactly what it is but they do go off time. I would placing it just a little before when you think they would come in and slow it down a little ( i really hear how much faster it is at the "Shed Tears vocal area around 1:00 - 1:08) i could be completely wrong tho...
     
  9. Thin and crispy

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    94, put it thru goldwave and use the FTT tempo change if u wanna make it fit to dnb
     
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    Phat_Sam Well-Known Member

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    Do wut?

    Whats a Goldwave?
     
  11. sten360

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    I can never get my acapellas exactly on time either and it's damn annoying. Always end up ragequitting. Is it just me or is working with vocals in FL really hard?
     
  12. groelle

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    its really easy.

    now its 94.xxx - set up a project, import the vocals, set project speed to half of your dnb tune, click on the sample and click "fit to tempo"

    export & import into your dnb project, done.
     
  13. miszt

    miszt BASSFACE Royale

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    yeah it goes out of time a little bit, not much but it definitily fuks the groove

    it also sounds to me like the first word of each phrase comes in a fraction to late, from what i can work out, its best to have the very first part of the word a few m/s in front of the beat you want it to fall on, at the moment its a few m/s after the kick
     
  14. subprime

    subprime Dysjoint

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    I think it might be a case of with slower hip hop you can hang the vocals off the beat but at faster more clinical speeds like dnb it sounds wrong? Gotta do some chopping I think.
     
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    Phat_Sam Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmmm... was thinking that...
     
  16. ali^

    ali^ Bigtingsagwarn

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    tbh, i don't think you need it in as much, just have some pre-drop, then say 64 after the drop bring em in again, with little bites in between to keep it interestin while maybe takin the drums out for a sec
     
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    mcsketcha Sketchamus

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    Yeah I think some chopping is going to be invovled, i tried mixing the acapella with some dnb track last night and found the third and fourth bar ''where light never shines and the evil are feeding, on soles of the ones who had sinned to break even'' kept sounding too fast and going out of time, its almost like my tempo changes on those few bars, but when you listen to the vocal over the original track it seems to sound normal, im a complete noob at this sort of thing so i don't really know what to suggest. Ive put all the tracks and acapellas through a free bpm analyzer i downloaded and here's the results;

    The Inferno Acapella - 104.84 bpm
    The Inferno Acapella (Dry Version) - 105.13 bpm
    The Inferno Track (beat and vocals) - 94.03 bpm
    The Inferno Instrumental (beat only) - 94.02 bpm

    Hope this helps mate.
     
  18. subprime

    subprime Dysjoint

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    yeah, so also this is why dry vocals are good. If you had reverb or delay or anything with a tail then when you chop it up the echos or reverb tails from the previous word are still there over the next word even when you chop it and move it around, if you get what I mean.
     
  19. chromey

    chromey a.k.a Impact

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    so what your saying is: you like it dry? :D ;)


    dry pellas ftw!
     
  20. subprime

    subprime Dysjoint

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    Yes dry, or bald if you must.