what is this sound used in freestyle/breaks/electro?

djdizzy

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i've always wondered what this sound is, ever since i was a kid and loved listening to 80's b-boy music. then around the late 90's and early 00's you heard it in alot of freestyle and electro mainly (the real electro - electro breaks - not electro house).

here's an example, you hear it laid over the kick, about half-way through the song it goes up either half an octave or a few semitones:

 

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It's just a sine wave with a fast pitch envelope. You should be able to recreate it with more or less any "analog" softsynth, and possibly some high and low pass filtering.
 

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I think I found what it's called. supposedly they're "laser pulses" from an e-mu proteus 2000, real popular in old school hip-hop, breaks, etc.

haven't been able to recreate it to my satisfaction though. as mentioned above, a sine wave with a pitchbend via an envelope does it but it just doesn't have the same harmonics as you hear from the e-mu. i've tried various synths, from analog hardware and softsynths, i can get close but not close enough due to using different gear having different harmonics.
 

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Since it's an emu, you could try to bounce it and replay with a sampler that emulates old samplers. I've been having loads of fun with the TAL Sampler over the last two weeks, check the demo :)
There's even a sine in the "ROM" section of the sampler, so you might just be able to do the entire sound in the sampler.

http://tal-software.com/products/tal-sampler
thanks, i'll give that TAL sampler's sine wave a try. problem is, i haven't been able to find a one shot of the sound. i'll keep searching around, the sound is such a staplepoint that it has to be somewhere online, maybe i'm just using the wrong search words.
 

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At some point, E-mu released the Proteus VX VST instrument. I had it because I had an E-mu 1820m sound card (which I no longer have). Could be that it has what you need if you can source it :)
 
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