Hate to break it to you mate
He plays CD's and in this picture resembles some kind of dwarf / midget hybrid.
lol!
Vinyl-only DJs
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TC767
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vinyl sounds a lot better on a system i think you can definitely tell the difference
also amc uses vinyl and cds for his however many deck mixes...
correct me if im wrong, but dont you cut WAVs to vinyl? and surely you must lose some quality during the process, so technically WAVs are the better quality?
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4 decks, 17 cdj's....
I think vinyl users are Andy, Friction, Fierce, High Contrast (i think),
apparently this is not true. regardless of system, home stereo, headphones, whatever, whatever!
I don't know the specific ins and outs of it, but the underline point is, vinyl can have a slight distortion to it that is pleasing to the ear, which is what causes the better sound confusion.
don't get me wrong i'm not being negative about vinyl, after all its my personal choice of media, but its not as perfect as people make it out to be. its an outdated format, but the best one that has existed imo and i salute all the people still buying and using it for keeping it alive.
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Same bro, and there arent that many of us left....
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Hes not, i have seen him using 2 cdjs and 1 turntable .
once at the bedlam WALL OF SOUND
once at run007 or 008 ( i cant remeber which one )
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Subjekt Music
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But he predominantly uses turntables. Andy uses a CDJ occasionally if he hasnt had time to cut a tune, Friction is probably the same
a WAV is strictly better quality, but CDs lower that quality, as does the hardware and software when you are using traktor etc.
big ups to the vinyl crew still, i will be buying it for as long as they sell it
TC767
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if they stop selling vinyl... i will give up buying new tunes... i love the look feel everything of them!
Teddy Teddy Teddy...I am dissapoint. Where to start?
I like the way you started your post with 'apparently' coz I suspect somewhere deep down in your soul you know that's not true. I have turntables, cdj's and serato and can tell you which one sounds loudest and above all the clearest. I also have the added benefit of not having been dragged into the format war that so badly affects the way people talk about them on here. My eyes arent going to glaze over when mentioning my digital conversion nor am I going to point out that good music is good music nonetheless and that formats dont really matter.
I bought serato recently in the hope it would fix how badly I felt about the digital format after I'd bought my first cdj. I thought I could mess around with breaks or 140 jungle etc with the same sound quality I do with jungle/dnb but it's still whack. I spent two hours last night trying to mix Defkline on serato realising that even though I'd bought the tunes (on freeking wavs) I couldnt hear the beats clearly....even turned right up. The tunes just sound so muddy and ill-defined it's cringing...the phrase polishing turds kept coming to mind. EQing is a total and utter joke you can turn whatever range you want up to the max and nothing happens. You try that with vinyl you're in for a shock! The difference in throttle is just fucking stupid.
I'm not romantically attached to vinyl or any other format but I do know which one sounds better and that's the only reason I'll spend five times what I'd spend on an mp3 buying it. Mp3's may have helped 'democratise' mixing but it's been at the expense of the music itself.
The idea of buying a big bassy dnb tune on mp3 absolutely horrifies me and bwoy am I glad there are still dj's and labels that are keeping vinyl alive...
I like the way you started your post with 'apparently' coz I suspect somewhere deep down in your soul you know that's not true. I have turntables, cdj's and serato and can tell you which one sounds loudest and above all the clearest. I also have the added benefit of not having been dragged into the format war that so badly affects the way people talk about them on here. My eyes arent going to glaze over when mentioning my digital conversion nor am I going to point out that good music is good music nonetheless and that formats dont really matter.
I bought serato recently in the hope it would fix how badly I felt about the digital format after I'd bought my first cdj. I thought I could mess around with breaks or 140 jungle etc with the same sound quality I do with jungle/dnb but it's still whack. I spent two hours last night trying to mix Defkline on serato realising that even though I'd bought the tunes (on freeking wavs) I couldnt hear the beats clearly....even turned right up. The tunes just sound so muddy and ill-defined it's cringing...the phrase polishing turds kept coming to mind. EQing is a total and utter joke you can turn whatever range you want up to the max and nothing happens. You try that with vinyl you're in for a shock! The difference in throttle is just fucking stupid.
I'm not romantically attached to vinyl or any other format but I do know which one sounds better and that's the only reason I'll spend five times what I'd spend on an mp3 buying it. Mp3's may have helped 'democratise' mixing but it's been at the expense of the music itself.
The idea of buying a big bassy dnb tune on mp3 absolutely horrifies me and bwoy am I glad there are still dj's and labels that are keeping vinyl alive...
I'm pretty curious to see what happens when vinyl finally does fizzle out. I'm a religious vinyl buyer and will only buy digital when I can't get the tune on wax, and even then some of the time I simply don't bother. I mean there is something about vinyl that's just special. Look at the Enei EP thread at the moment, people are going crazy for the chance to own a tune that's already been out for 6 months. Why? Cause it's of the format it's coming out on.
Still, what's going to happen to DnB and all the other vinyl heavy genres of music when it finally dies? I ask this because shit tons of new records are churned out every week, so people must still clearly be buying them. I know record labels like Hospital and Ram make an obscene amount of money, and this is, in part, down to vinyl sales.
I mean, lets assume tomorrow vinyl disappeared and digital was the only format... would drum and bass become more or less profitable? Would it continue to grow or start to decline? Obviously illegal downloads will affect this as well...
Who knows, it might make a massive comeback at some point. I know that vinyl sales in the UK Funky/Garage scene are flying off the shelves at the moment, but they have a lot of artists that support the format, Ramadanman, Joy Orbison, Ben UFO, Pinch, Mala etc. I kind of wish DnB still had that. I think if you own a successful record label there's no excuse for not supporting the format you put out.
This post has becoming somewhat of a ramble so I'll finish now....
Still, what's going to happen to DnB and all the other vinyl heavy genres of music when it finally dies? I ask this because shit tons of new records are churned out every week, so people must still clearly be buying them. I know record labels like Hospital and Ram make an obscene amount of money, and this is, in part, down to vinyl sales.
I mean, lets assume tomorrow vinyl disappeared and digital was the only format... would drum and bass become more or less profitable? Would it continue to grow or start to decline? Obviously illegal downloads will affect this as well...
Who knows, it might make a massive comeback at some point. I know that vinyl sales in the UK Funky/Garage scene are flying off the shelves at the moment, but they have a lot of artists that support the format, Ramadanman, Joy Orbison, Ben UFO, Pinch, Mala etc. I kind of wish DnB still had that. I think if you own a successful record label there's no excuse for not supporting the format you put out.
This post has becoming somewhat of a ramble so I'll finish now....
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like someone else said, if they stop pressing vinyl, i will stop buying new music.
Agree. I have 2 heco stereo speakers and if I compare a 320 mp3 with a vinyl...vinyl sounds better. warm, more bass.
I see High Contrast using CDJ's.
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Shame all big DJ's stop using vinyl. As some one said if they stoped vinyl they give up, same with me. So much better to have tune on vinyl than MP3 on computer or CD. I rather pay extra have vinyl with artwork than MP3/WAV. Theres something special about vinyl even though I got CDJ I never use it. Defo got big up vinyl buyers and labels keeping it alive.
Ray Sparra
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It probably has to do with cost for the Dj's themselves, I saw an Interview with total science where they explained about the prohibative expense of getting dubs cut to play out with, I suppose in the older times they sold more vinyl themselves and since there was a better profit margin they could more easily afford to cut dubs, bit of a catch 22 ,the less vinyl they sell they have less money to waste and have to use cds to play fresh music , a vicious circle.
I've seen plenty of them using normal vinyl that I doubt very much they paid for. Wish the cost argument had more legs at least as regards pro djs.
Ray Sparra
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i Think Vinyl as a medium of producers/Dj's to get music heard and to get fresh music has changed, Vinyl is still a reality for collectors, but they will have to wait months to get the tune, Labels and producers use different ways of gauging the popularity of their music nowadays, internet, free digital downloads ect, when vinyl was the main fashion of people who bought music, people would do test pressings and they would be shifted, now as there is a free way to spread music people dont spend money doing test pressings, why would you? the majority of people prefer digital to promote their music, because it's cheaper, who could blame them! great shame,
That must've been a one off, saw him last night at Shogun and he just pounded his set out on 3 turntables, didn't go near the CDJs
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