Turntable Advice - Pioneer PLX -1000 vs Technic 1210's

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I Have been mixing vinyl for the past 3 years on Stanton T.62's and feel that I need an upgrade. The question is what turntable should I get? The two options that I am looking at are Pioneer PLX -1000 and Technic 1210's but I am not sure which to get?
 
That is the question right there mate...

I don't think there's many of us on here who have had 1st hand experience with the Pioneers. Pretty much every review i've seen though says they can and do step up to the 1210's level. Not really heard anything bad about them. Is there anywhere local to you that you could go have a little play around on a pair?

I reckon if it was me and I had the option right now, I probably would go for the Pioneers. It's all dependant on price though really. You could get a pair of used 1210's for the price of 1 new PLX.
 
muzzadj said:
That is the question right there mate...

I don't think there's many of us on here who have had 1st hand experience with the Pioneers. Pretty much every review i've seen though says they can and do step up to the 1210's level. Not really heard anything bad about them. Is there anywhere local to you that you could go have a little play around on a pair?

I reckon if it was me and I had the option right now, I probably would go for the Pioneers. It's all dependant on price though really. You could get a pair of used 1210's for the price of 1 new PLX.
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No where close to me that I can get DJ equipment mate (not that I know of). Might be easier for me to get Pioneer because I can finance it on DJ kit (interest free over 6 months) and will not have to worry about going to collect it as I do not drive but the main thing that bothers me is will they last for life like 1210's would? Once I get these decks that is my setup sorted but I don't want to get a few years down the line after spending alot of P on pioneers then them packing in on me. Also I have never mixed on pioneers but have on 1210's and do really like them but same as you all the reviews I have read about the pioneer PLX-1000 says that they are really good decks and live up to 1210's
 
Dannyboy93 said:
No where close to me that I can get DJ equipment mate (not that I know of). Might be easier for me to get Pioneer because I can finance it on DJ kit (interest free over 6 months) and will not have to worry about going to collect it as I do not drive but the main thing that bothers me is will they last for life like 1210's would? Once I get these decks that is my setup sorted but I don't want to get a few years down the line after spending alot of P on pioneers then them packing in on me. Also I have never mixed on pioneers but have on 1210's and do really like them but same as you all the reviews I have read about the pioneer PLX-1000 says that they are really good decks and live up to 1210's
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In regards to the build quality, if you get them new at least you will get a pretty decent warranty with them surely. So if they do break at least you can get a fresh pair and sell them on for some Technics if you're really unhappy with them? I can imagine them to be pretty solid though. The most frequent issue it seems with broken turntables seems to be the phonos but as you probably know they are not wired in on the Pioneers so can easily be swapped out.
 
I've seen a review on youtube by an Australian guy who lives in Dubai.

He completely dismantles the turntable to see what components Pioneer have used to build it and he said the build quality on them is shocking. The base is made of plastic instead of rubber, like the 1210s. This means that the vibration isolation is awful and resonance is extreme when you turn the volume up load. The pitch fader is also soldered on to the logic board so if you need to replace it you either need to know your soldering shit or buy a whole new PCB with the pitch fader on.

Here it is.



If you have a choice then get a good 2nd hand pair of 1210s.
 
Gloxxy said:
I've seen a review on youtube by an Australian guy who lives in Dubai.

He completely dismantles the turntable to see what components Pioneer have used to build it and he said the build quality on them is shocking. The base is made of plastic instead of rubber, like the 1210s. This means that the vibration isolation is awful and resonance is extreme when you turn the volume up load. The pitch fader is also soldered on to the logic board so if you need to replace it you either need to know your soldering shit or buy a whole new PCB with the pitch fader on.

Here it is.



If you have a choice then get a good 2nd hand pair of 1210s.
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will check the video tonight mate, surprised how that the pioneer's build would be shocking considering how much the turntable is, thanks for the advice mate
 
Yep. The build quality of their cdjs is a bit shit as well.

Whenever I pick one up I'm shocked by how light it is. I feel like it'll break if I sneeze near it
 
also heard that the pioneer ones have issues when it comes to humidity in clubs, cant find anything on this right now though
 
Watched the video a while back. That and pioneers premium price completely put me off these TT's. Its a shame because they could have really done something special with them, instead we got a sub par turntable.
 
sam the dnb man said:
Yep. The build quality of their cdjs is a bit shit as well.

Whenever I pick one up I'm shocked by how light it is. I feel like it'll break if I sneeze near it
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My 800mk2 fell onto a wooden floor from desk height the other night, not had the guts to see if it's broken yet
 
1210's Danny!

To put into perspective I checked how old my 1210's where using the serial number and they were incredibly more than 20 years old. I bought them knowing they needed work, replaced pitches/RCA's/earths and worked fine, then decided to get Mistanoize to sort out gold plated RCA's and new pitches again 6/7 years after I did all that work myself. Decks work just like any other 1210's. My worry would be as croog highlighted that if you ever needed to do a repair job on the pioneers it wouldn't be such an easy job. Someone mentioned humidity allegedly that is to do with some cables being held up in the TT by a rubbish glue plug which would invariably suffer in heat.

I think the answer to your question is how many of these original pioneer turntables we will see in 20 years time? Probably not many. Technics have and will continue to last as the build quality is in a different class to the pioneers. + even an idiot like me can pull one apart and do the job.
 
Agent Smith said:
1210's Danny!

To put into perspective I checked how old my 1210's where using the serial number and they were incredibly more than 20 years old. I bought them knowing they needed work, replaced pitches/RCA's/earths and worked fine, then decided to get Mistanoize to sort out gold plated RCA's and new pitches again 6/7 years after I did all that work myself. Decks work just like any other 1210's. My worry would be as croog highlighted that if you ever needed to do a repair job on the pioneers it wouldn't be such an easy job. Someone mentioned humidity allegedly that is to do with some cables being held up in the TT by a rubbish glue plug which would invariably suffer in heat.

I think the answer to your question is how many of these original pioneer turntables we will see in 20 years time? Probably not many. Technics have and will continue to last as the build quality is in a different class to the pioneers. + even an idiot like me can pull one apart and do the job.
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cheers stu, decided to go down the 1210 route mate, need to find a decent pair now haha
 
The reason Panasonic quit making 1200's was that they simply cost too much to produce, which reflects the shoddy quality of the Pioneer.
 
1210's imo
Maybe its just me, but they are one of the most aesthetically pleasing things you'll ever see.
MK2's anyway. They 3 & 5's have that stupid button that looks out of place.
 
sam the dnb man said:
I was thinking about selling my 1210s due to money problems at one point. This thread has made me realise how valuable they are.

Also, how I'd instantly regret it
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Old Cordosa was close at one stage to getting rid...one of those things we will always look back on fondly in our later years in my opinion.
 
Like I said in another similar thread:
I play the PLXs regularly at a local night club, and haven't had any issues (arrived in November last year). I'm not going to argue with the Youtube video demonstrating the feedback issue, but I've never had any real world problems with them at all. For home use I'd suspect they're more than adequate, although there's obviously room for speculation on how they will hold up to wear over several years.

They feel slightly different than the 1200s for someone who's used to them, but nothing you won't adjust to without thinking about it after two or three tracks (I have 1200 mk2s at home). Compared to my home 1200s the pitch fader is smoother and better for fine adjustments, but that might just be my turntables needing new pitch faders.
 
Tough one tbh! I would have said Technics all day long but having tried the Plx's i think they are amazing! They look and feel just like the 1210's and i love the fact you can change the phono's and that you have a better pitch range. Also they are new and despite the scares re build quality i'm pretty sure nothing will happen to them if you just take care and not keep dropping them!
 
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