Timbaland: Sampling or Stealing...?

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  1. Blurr

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    YOUNG TUNA IT'S ME BITCHES

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    I don't have anything against sampling but especially when he took Janne's tune you can't fucking call that sampling he just added the drums and some bass on top of that. I mean I can't produce for shits but I could "produce" Do It in less than 5 minutes if that's just sampling.
     
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    this guy is dripping with samples! ide love to see if he could actually make a tune as have decent as the stuff out there if her were stripped of his sample collection.

    its fine to use a few samples but your whole tune cant be an arrangement of samples, otherwise wat the hell are u gona make next, all about creating your own sound imo!
     
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    APERone YO, SHIT'S MAD ILL SON.

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    haha great
    I didn't know he sampled that much, seems like he was going for stuff he thought would be obscure too
     
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    I used to do what he is doing when i first started learning about music production but as soon as i got better i started recreating what i sampled then re-arranging the hook to make it my own oh only when remixing the original! not to claim as my own work! the guys a nob jockey! with all his money i would just book an orchestra and some indian flute player for the day then sample the shit out of that that way its his and would proberly be rated higher for atleast putting some effort in to it! notice in one of his tunes he says "im a real producer u just a piano man" HA HA HA HA RUMBLED U PRICK!!!!!
     
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    Infact he deserves to be pimped Slaped!!!!
     
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    groelle Well-Known Member

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    wtf - he should have been sued to give all his money to those people who really wrote the tunes.
     
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    that was pretty damn funny!
     
  10. MARKLAR

    MARKLAR International Tracksuit Salesman

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    wat a cheeky cunt ill only ever sample beats an random chords an the occasion piece but fuck it up so much u cant tell its someones elses!lol
     
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    Doesnt he have like a team that produce for him??
     
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    timbaland gets on my nerves.
     
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    EWOKS POTATOES GONNA POTATE

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    hiphop originated from sampling. there is nothing wrong with sampling, if you produce your own stuff aswell theres no problem. sampling is an artform, picking decent samples and using them well takes talent. but if your a one trick pony and can only make tracks with samples, youve got a problem.

    this guy explains it well,

    http://www.artistshousemusic.org/videos/sampling+in+hip+hop
     
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    not the biggest timbo fan but he is a good producer
     
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    i dont mind sampling, i just dont really like his music.
     
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    hes been notorious for stealing noname producers beats. since the jump. so yea that deserves a slap. but to say hes wack cuz he samples things? dunno about that one, all the music you listen to contains some type of sample. its the way forward IMO
     
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    agreed but there's needs to be more done to stop the theives imo, rerecording something with new new beat or sampling an unknown melody/riff is just cheap, especially if u don't achknowladge it and pay the original author, fo'sho Timbaland will get aggy with anyone using limewire for his tunes

    one that pissed me off ALOT recently was a coldplay tune that stole this...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caXWqvyJtz0
     
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    did they steal that or did the record company pay loads for it not be theft

    hmmmm

    i remember coldplay saying they knew it was a kraftwerk sample, but they pay both camps to keep quiet cos most of the general public wouldnt have known it and bought the single and not known it was a kraftwerk sample but chris martin has a big mouth etc

    kraftwerk are one of the most sampled bands ever, most b-boy breaks are kraftwerk stuff btw
     
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    well if that was the case then we need to go after The Winstons, Lynne Collins & The JB's for a witch hunt ehh.

    people get sued everyday for sampling. theres people whos job it is to find artists who have un licensed samples.

    Im for sampling personally. If your good at what u do, then youll be able to make it your own.
     
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    Nice one on the thread here...glad to see a vid like that on timbaland..he's bankin' on that when people who really wrote those tunes probably didn't make half as much as he did on 'em..so my vote is for calling it stealing...
    I read different things on sampling, etc..and the laws of it...he more than likely didn't get sample clearance either..
    I agree with some on here, that samplin' is part of it, especially in electronic music in some ways..I like how the guy in the video, can't recall the name if it showed it, compared Timbaland's sampling to stealing...

    In another case, wouldn't it be the same as Snoop rappin' over the Chase & Status track "Eastern Jam"? And he gave the track a different title..

    Here's a link to the forum thread which has a link to that track in there..

    http://dnbforum.com/showthread.php?t=68835


    pz