The Future Of Music?

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  1. D BREAKNECK

    D BREAKNECK 7 years on top

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    I'm not talking about direction & styles but distribution, and how this will affect production.

    I've been thinking about this and just wondered what everyone else has been thinking...

    On Ebay you can / could (some of the auctions got shut down but a lot didn't) get a set a MP3s on DVDs, containing well over 350 hiphop albums for less than £20. It contained all (as in every released album, + underground stuff, mixtapes & freestyles etc) by JayZ, Wu, Em., 50 / G-unit, Snoop, B.I.G, etc. Alot of stuff I've never seen for sale, or heard of, before.

    I'm not advertising or condoning (blah, blah) but if that's what you're into there's massive collections available. Not just hiphop, just one example, there's others too.

    This week's Top 50 albums on one CD for £10? That can't be good for music...

    Point is...Copying music used to be taping a record or CD, or buying a cheap knock off. Now you can buy massive illegal collections very cheaply. And anyone can copy and pass them on at the same quality.

    Where's it gonna go next?

    I can see Ipod's being legally sold fully loaded by genre, or individual musical taste within a few years. I think the music industry will have to, in order to scrape any revenue back from pirates / sharers.

    How will the music industry cope?

    Is it gonna mean more XFactors and less real acts? Cos the commercial labels want safer and safer bets (and make millions from the TV Show so the winner's music and sales become much less important).

    I think mainstream music will get safer and safer, with less investment in new acts, of all kinds. Less new bands will break, and only currently well established acts or music that can be made in bedrooms, or garages, like that tame acoustic Daniel Powter stuff.

    It's not just commercial music. The whole of music changing.

    There's countless DnB tracks and mixes posted by people on here that only exist digitally, listened to as D/L's or streamed. Which is great that the music out there, but it has moved away from the 'revenue stream' and very few tracks will recieve the audience, or financial reimbursement they deserve (yeah I know it's a hobby, but not a cheap one, and money / progression is essential at some point).

    How are record shops, from specialist dance music to HMV gonna cope when everything available to D/L?

    Who knows?

    Any ideas?

    Has anyone else been thinking about this?
     
  2. Dj_Lien

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    Music IS big money. 50% of people I know have not brought any music in the last few years. They have downloaded from the internet. It does not take the most computer-savi person to know they can get MP3's for free, & how to burn them. Most people that read this post know where to get the latest MP3 DnB dubs from.

    Thats a harsh fact, but the last time I play out the Dj before me played his set on CD's & the selection was 100% pure "dubplates", all downloaded from the internet. I asked him when the last time he brought vinyl & he said in about 98-99. Last time I brought a record was this morning............
     
  3. $marty

    $marty Dexcell Staff Member

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    cdj's-crock of shit. cheating bastards who get their tunes for free. Now THEY are affecting the music industry imo.
     
  4. popeye

    popeye I've been naughty, I'm banned

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    dont care what they are using aslong as it sounds good............. and to other maties point, the money in the industry is guna shrink they all know it so are going into clothes, perfumes,trainers etc if you produce then make your money now
     
  5. Affliction

    Affliction thought size didnt matter

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    Popeye is right - "diversify or die"... it's the same story in virtually every industry in this ever-changing world...
     
  6. mesh

    mesh Active Member

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    Future thinking there D. You can post stuff like this in General if you like, its completely relevant to dNb.
     
  7. Dj_Lien

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    Popeye you are wrong IMO. If it was ever to get too 'bad', as in the top names were making no money. They would stop production & move on to something else. Most of the top Dj's/Producers are money grabbing barstards. ALL people are like that, myself included. I don't get-up & go to work for no money. So them little cunts who D/L everything & pay for nothing need put something back into the scene they love...... more like the scene there killing slowly.

    PMSL anyone for some Dj Hype Ham, Andy C milk or a nice fresh pair of Mc GQ underpants. LOL. Can you see that happening. No! Look at the 'slating' Goldie gets because he has 'diversified' is he taken seriously any more in the DnB scene. No. Would you honestly buy anymore records from a man that was in one of them crappy soaps. I know just out of principle i'll never by a track from them. ;)
     
  8. popeye

    popeye I've been naughty, I'm banned

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    all music scenes are fucked, end of the matter, its just a waiting game and it is really hard to beat the internet you can keep shutting sites like winmx but people will always share music through any vein they can! free music is good im guna get a cd deck so i can leech the scene myself cos i wnt a piece of that cake.its like the ozone layer i dont give a fuck because it wont affect me too bad in my time so who gives a shit! just enjoy this music while it lasts and its a bonus that you can get it free, to those who are rigid against d/l then it is like you are burning your money, i blame the illegal immigrants myself:twitch:
     
  9. popeye

    popeye I've been naughty, I'm banned

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    LIEN MY FRIEND THE DIVERSIFY OR DIE COMMENT WAS BASICALLY AIMED AT hip hop/rnb american markets, but true playaz do it record bags,hoodies slipmats etc,mayb not aftershave and that but still opening up a different market
     
  10. Dj_Lien

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    Not saying I dont download myself, because I do..... quite a bit too. But people still need to buy music, or people will stop making music. Point less having a set of CD decks if you got no decent music to put on them.

    Record lables have done clothes & stuff since the dawn of time, to make a few extra squid. But would you wear market fakes of there stuff?

    Also there is no point in being the richest dead man in a graveyard. I'll waste my wonga on what I want.... fuck it gonna by my PSP today ;) :lol:

    I'm not right & your not wrong, we all have our opinions on things & i've just voiced mine.

    Them fuckers have a lot to answer for, round 'em up & shoot 'em I say. Do what the Romans did with the christians, they had the right idea ;)
     
  11. popeye

    popeye I've been naughty, I'm banned

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    you know that mr lien kill them teastained rapists:chainsaw:
     
  12. Affliction

    Affliction thought size didnt matter

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    I didn't mention anything about food or clothes matey...

    My point is, times are changing and those people who can't change with them are gonna get left behind...
     
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  13. mesh

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    god what a mess. Diversyfying is a legit way to back up sales, this culture can be 'sold' as an image very nicely. God I'm hanging for the new Metalheadz merchandise for over a year now. But yah, Goldie, Pendulum, ShyFX (ages ago) have all been slated severely for 'selling out' for basically just shifting a lotta units! let alone branching out into lunchboxes.

    But I do think thgat if revenue from a music business becomes driven solely by non-music related product (ie. I can leech the latest Ram tune, but pay $50 for a Tshirt) the quality of tunes will suffer enormously.

    What about the effect of these large mp3 collections on sampling and production itself? Will we see a surge of creativity as the shedload of music samples gets worked back into the scene? Many of my friends listen to music genres from filesharing that they wouldnt have ever purchased, and it does broaden people's scope.
     
  14. popeye

    popeye I've been naughty, I'm banned

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    well said mesh
     
  15. Dj_Lien

    Dj_Lien Member

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    That part of the reply was ment as a joke, tho it does come off as being 'a little bit sarcastic'....... :D

    But its true about Goldie tho :)
     
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