The creation of kicks and snares

Discussion in 'Production' started by Mr Fletch, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. Mr Fletch

    Mr Fletch aka KRONIX

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    So I'm getting a little tired of hunting around for kick and snare samples, layering them up etc etc and would like to start trying to creat my own.

    Does anyone know the basics of this? Oscillators, waves etc.

    Any tips and tricks would be appreciated
     
  2. Oxidyze

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    A lot of dnb drums are actual recorded bass drums and snare drum hit's from a drum kit, then processed. Not sure how to go about creating them from a synth. Kind of would like to know myself.
     
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    there was a thread on this not too long ago, where the basics were explained^^ ill have a look around tomorrow.
     
  4. Wrigzilla

    Wrigzilla broke but not broken

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    Ok for kicks:

    Sine wave with immediate attack, short decay, no sustain and no release - then modulate the pitch upwards with immediate attack and an even shorter decay. Then add another wave on top (trianle or square should do the trick) to give the kick some of that essential midrange punch.

    For snares:

    White noise with immediate attack, short decay, no sustain and no release. Add another wave (triangle/sine/square) underneath.



    That's the bog standard, with the right processing you can get that sounding pretty fat (and even fatter if you layer with other kicks).
     
  5. kama

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    A lot of the popular 909 style kick drums have a real heavy pitch envelope to them. They start relatively high, maybe layered with some noise that decays very quickly but the rest of the kick just goes down and down in pitch. If you load up a basic club kick and look at it with an analyzator you'll see how the pitch goes down.
     
  6. Protoplasym

    Protoplasym Nuskool

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    uTonic... $90... case closed


    : Digital Drums for Life:
     
  7. druu

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    uTonic is great for drums. AudioDamage have that new one too that looks the goods. I'll stick to samples myself tho..
     
  8. TongueFlap

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    mate you on aim? I have 100's of drum samples. kicks, snares, toms, cymbals. want me to send you some? All of them have been recorded dry through an SSL/Neve
     
  9. co0ke

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    i would like very much! no aim tho :(
     
  10. EvezDroppin

    EvezDroppin how to change name,......

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    ^^ any chance you could sort me out with some samples please mate.
    I'm thinking of buying the ray kieth pack... im only just starting and wondering whether its worth it though
     
  11. logikz

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    by yourself?? sexy!
     
  12. logikz

    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    evezdroppin, check ibunshis filefront and darkbeatz on doa for the mega awesome sample archive, freely downloadable and all
     
  13. Mr Fletch

    Mr Fletch aka KRONIX

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    Unfortunately I'm not. Is there another way you can get them to me? If not I'll go set up an aim account. Really appreciate the offer. Thanks
     
  14. TongueFlap

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    whats your email? pm it to me if thats cool. I will make you some form of pack and sendspace it over.
     
  15. EvezDroppin

    EvezDroppin how to change name,......

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    cheers ill have a gander!
     
  16. EvezDroppin

    EvezDroppin how to change name,......

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    how well does this work? any examples?
     
  17. druu

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    http://www.darkbeats.com/sampleswap/
     
  18. TongueFlap

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    if im feeling kind I will make a drum sample pack and post it on here over the weekend.
     
  19. Wrigzilla

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    With some careful processing a shit load better than I thought it would, here's a few I made in about 10 minutes in Logic's ES2

    View attachment synthesised kick and snares.zip

    For the best results reinforce with some kick samples.

    Both the kick and snare in this track of mine were synthesized in logic's ES2 and then layered with a few kick/snare samples.

    http://soundcloud.com/wrigzilla/lampost
     
  20. logikz

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    the kick and snare in that track sound great. i dont like the track itself but the nice work on those hits.