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  1. Subjekt Music

    Subjekt Music Well-Known Member

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    Most people on here know I write interviews. I also write a monthly opinion piece column which i talk about various D&B related subjects that might take my interest. Never thought to post them up here but would see what you guys think.

    This month i wrote about the state of Neurofunk

    http://datatransmission.co.uk/blog/subsection9/
     
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  2. Teddy

    Teddy 60% Staff Member

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    Such a way with words mate. Loved it.
     
  3. Fallen.GeMiNi

    Fallen.GeMiNi 3rd rate banger merchant

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    Funnily enough I've thought about writing a similar article myself not so long ago, I've even started it but haven't come back to it yet. And just for the record, I agree (and the same applies for the current state of deep drum & bass imo).
     
  4. Subjekt Music

    Subjekt Music Well-Known Member

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    Haha, cheers buddy


    Neuro for me has kinda gonna downhill in the way jump up has. All just sounds a bit lifeless and far too samey
     
  5. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Currently Putins Koala

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    I think "Neuro" is in a worse place than the deep stuff.
    Mainly because as Wanye so rightly put it...when you chuck all but the kitchen sink your left with a fucked up kitchen. A lot of the stuff released just sounds awfully messy...well produced but no real musical element to it. Just an amalgamation of sounds put together.
     
  6. Subjekt Music

    Subjekt Music Well-Known Member

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    spot on
     
  7. Fallen.GeMiNi

    Fallen.GeMiNi 3rd rate banger merchant

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    Jwood27 VICTIM

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    nailed it. good shit again man.
     
  9. DjTiesticles

    DjTiesticles Well-Known Member

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    Hard to argue with anything you've said
     
  10. Subjekt Music

    Subjekt Music Well-Known Member

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    Big ups
     
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    rysk Part-time waster

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    i opened this article expecting it to make me a little bit angry...

    but nope... i agree with pretty much everything you said.


    aside from slating the word itself... i've always loved it.
     
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    MisterApe 8bit junkie

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    Honestly,as much as I agree, there are still artists pushing the boundaries of neurofunk (which is a good thing).
     
  13. dambusters

    dambusters Melbourne

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    Far too much stuff now that sounds like it just came straight out the back of a macbook. Which obviously much of it does but there seems to be so much emphasis on clinical, loud, tidy mixdowns and almost none on groove, attitude and vibes which is what made the original Virus stuff so good. Listen to the way Optical made those breaks roll, you can spot a classic Optical tune a mile off because of those twisted grooves and the sounds they created were just fucking rude and made your jaw drop. It's a lot more contrived and tryhard sounding now.
     
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    Toejam OOOBEY DOOBEY

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    Great read Wanye, I think what made tracks stand out more than they do nowadays *old people rant* that there was an element of funk or soul in those tunes, it might even just be a snippet of a classic break or a lil riff before a tear off b-line that used to make the tune, I haven't heard that in years, but I guess things move on, But as always less is more if done right, and it does make a difference, Me being a listener/consumer of dnb i couldnt give a fuck if its made on 455 daws on macbook pro made some hipster high on latte's, well actually i would
     
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    Subjekt Music Well-Known Member

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    It's all too clean and clinical..... There's no raw elements in the music now
     
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    wingz everyones fav austrian

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    that's because people are obsessed with getting the cleanest mixdowns as possible
     
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    Too true. Emperor said he just does it by ear rather than having everything 'look right' on the screen!
     
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    I cant seem to read it ive tried on 2 different computers and it wouldnt load on any anyway,

    Out of the 3 main drum & bass sub genres i find it amusing you pick out neurofunk to criticize. I think its the only one of the 3 sub genres thats not failling at the moment to be honest. It's the only one thats kept its backbone, Im interested to hear what you find to be failling with Neurofunk
     
  19. Subjekt Music

    Subjekt Music Well-Known Member

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    i find it amusing you can give an opinion on something you havent read
     
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  20. $pyto

    $pyto Soundcloud changed everything

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    Once again the man somehow says what we're all thinking, and says it with style.

    People that actually go out and experience the scene; go to drum & bass nights regularly, will get what Wayne is talking about - as we can see (hear) it happening as well

    Is there a link to all the sub sections you've written mate? Or does the blogspot just update automatically with your latest piece?