someone help explain 3/4 4/4 triplets etc

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  1. SCC

    SCC New Member

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    pretty much as I said. I hear people going on about them all the time, i half understand but im not 100% just wondered if someone could shed some light. tunes with 3/4 can still be mixed into tunes which are 4/4 so whats the difference really?
     
  2. DJ SamWise

    DJ SamWise Gurnhead

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    err triplets and 3/4 time are different things man.
    in musicians terms if u have a crotchet, fitting 3 quavers into it instead of 4 are triplets.
    3/4 time is having three crotchets per bar instead of 4 so mixin that into a 4/4 time piece wuld be reaaallly difficult
     
  3. djjj128

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    tunes which are 3/4 can't be mixed into tunes that are 4/4

    the tunes you think are in 3/4 are actually in 4/4

    the tunes you think are in 3/4 sound this way because they are based on triplets; 12 or 6 beats in each bar to the 4 or 8 beats in each bar of a normal tunes; the beats as we feel them are different lengths but the bars themselves are the same, making both sorts of tunes in the same time signature, ie 4/4

    hope that helps
     
  4. DJ SamWise

    DJ SamWise Gurnhead

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    djjjj said it much better then i did
    technically u culd mix a 3/4 into a 4/4 tune if u wait for the 3/4 amount of bars to round of to a multiple of 4
    but it wuld still sound pretty fuckin wierd :S
     
  5. SCC

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    then what influences producers to produce in 3/4 when 90% of tunes are 4/4?
     
  6. Gloxxy

    Gloxxy I SNORT COAL

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    They don't produce tunes in 3/4 time signature though.

    Not unless they wanted to start producing Waltz step
     
  7. jones-e

    jones-e Junglist

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    lol heard it here first!
     
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    there's a track on asian dub foundation's album community music which is in 7/8. :)

    also Bjork uses some interesting time signatures, phrasing.
     
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    There's loads of electronic artists that use 3/4 and other time signatures, but DnB and most other popular electronic genres are strictly 4/4 as far as I know... I could be wrong though, I haven't done music theory in a long time, but you can have swing beats in DnB, which gives it that 3/4 feel.

    A lot of IDM uses weird time signatures, check out some Venetian Snares, he uses 11/4 time signatures in some of his songs.
     
  10. poohoodahoodoo

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    mentioned this in another thread: http://www.rolldabeats.com/artist/dj_suv
    check this link, scroll down to the title - Free by Four
    theres audio of a 3/4 track
    this can be mixed in but it just doesnt sound right
    sure another of suvs tracks - paklands - had a 3/4 intro and a 4/4 drop? might be wrong tho
     
  11. Zeal

    Zeal Ohm/C2D/Dark Asylum/Ennex

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    like said they different things

    3/4 is 3 beats in a bar in crotchet beats

    4/4 is 4 beats in a bar in crotchet beats

    tunes like bodyrock are 4/4 but have the swing because they are using triplets which instead of having 2 quavers to every one beat as usual, you fit three in. usually 3 quavers would equal a dotted crotchet

    hope that helps
     
  12. bugmenot

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    i'm a huge fan of dnb that uses triplets in 4/4 - they kind of have a "skip" beat which i find much more appealing and energetic. could anyone recommend any good tracks in a similar style to these?

    Sub Focus - Timewarp
    Chase and Status - Smash TV
    Nero - Do You Wanna
    Shimon - Vengeance

    Thanks
     
  13. wingz

    wingz everyones fav austrian

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    could you guys give examples for the different patterns? raw text isn't enough
     
  14. richie_stix

    richie_stix gomby plz

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    triplet beat, 4/4 sig