So someone explain what a producer does in certain music genres.

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  1. Borf™

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    In our world's here (D&B, Hip Hop, Dubstep), the producer creates the music. They make the beat. Even in pop music that's what the producer does.

    But for Metal, Jazz, Rock ect. what does a producer actually do? Put the recorded section together? Which is just mixing.

    Someone fill me in.
     
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    So when there's a big fuss over some metal band having a new producer, it's actually irrelevant. I mean, the band is going to sound how they want to sound anyway right?
     
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    it varies, in pop the producer is the guy who puts all the people involved together. the song writer, the arranger, the lyric writer, the beat maker, the singer, the rapper, the melody maker, the guitar player, the producer puts all these people together and makes it happen. chances are he cant play music very much but certainly knows what sells and how to make that happen. you wont believe all the people involved in a pop track.

    in rock the producer has a similar but more musical role, he records the instruments, tells the players how he wants them to play, and makes the instruments sound a certain way etc. many producers have a sound of their own and if you want that sound for a band you need that guy. see flood, phil spector, and whatever assface responsible for the rap metal sound

    in dnb the producer sits in front of cubase and gets instructions from ed rush who explains what he wants and the producer tweaks the virus and asks 'what about this, is this what you mean?' and ed rush says yes optical, as a matter of fact it is, that is precisely what i meant.
     
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    What he said^^
     
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    I had written something about Simon Cowell being a producer and doing fuck all but I got logged out but Logikz has explained my point far more in depth than I did.

    I don't know about Jazz but I know about rock and metal, This is what I know from having friends in metal bands and reading interviews with bands when I was a nipper.

    Both the band and producer will work together to get the overall sound for the album, guitar tone,bass tone & drum sounds (triggered nearly 100% of the time in metal) I think the producer is more of a guide for them, to help them out, tell the band what he thinks will sound good from a producers perspective and obviously if they're a good producer they will have had lots of experience producing with other bands so should know their shit.

    I read an interview ages ago with a band called Parkway Drive, one of their albums was produced by the guitarist from Killswitch Engage (Adam duckwuitz?can't remember his name) and he helped them out with some of the song writing as well, the band obviously came up with the initial song and then the producer told him what he though could be better in some parts (transitions,breakdowns etc..), obviously it's up to the band if they wanted to alter the song but it shows that the producer can have a bit more of an in depth role.
     
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    Ah, right.

    I see now. Kind of what I thought it was. Some guy in my office was banging on about this amazing itialian producer so I asked what music he does and he said rock. Just made me wonder.
     
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    People get 'producer' and 'beatmaker' mixed up
     
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    thats because they can be the same thing i guess. easy mistake to make. you think eminam is hot producer
     
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    No

    But Quincy Jones is a producer

    Dr Dre is a beatmaker
     
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    But they're always reffered to as producers...

    They even call themselves producers.
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    yeah. so shut up wayne. you drunk twerp.
     
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    Its all semantics if we're being honest

    The definition is pretty much the same depending on who you ask i suppose
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    not if you ask me chico-man. i will change up the story at every turn, there is no agreeing or disagreeing with me, im a teenage fat girl on her period, im a schizophrenic on failing medication, im a rampant quality review at a call center based on vodka and coke.
     
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    hell no nega

    i can argue with the best of them
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    but can you agree with them
     
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    Well the sound of the instruments and how to play should be and is a players thing..if you´re a good band.