I've been into drum and bass for some time now but having suffered with an anxiety disorder and a couple of mental health issues for many years, I've been more into the liquid side of things. For me, it's a beautiful sub genre of music, that can touch you on so many levels and in different ways. It's been the one thing that has kept me sane (well mostly) along my path of recovery. I can appreciate other styles of drum and bass, I just haven't got into them as much because they're not for me whilst chilling at home. Different genres and sub genres, in my opinion, all have a time and place Having lurked on this forum for a while though and comments I've read elsewhere, I've noticed that liquid dnb is often ridiculed as being too soft, amongst other things and that some people don't take it's fans seriously. (I've seen liquid fans be described as 'drippy emo c*nts' 'dnb for p*ssies' etc.) and I'm quite shocked at such hostility from what I originally thought would be, an open minded and loving scene. Not only that but I can't count how many times I've seen/heard some dnb fans describe something as 'girls music' or 'girly drum and bass' as way of insulting and entirely dismissing it. Not only does this imply women by default, have bad taste in music and shouldn't be taken seriously in any such way but it also creates a homophobic attitude towards men who may be a fan of that particular style of music. Having not yet experienced a proper dnb rave, I have such a burning desire to now I feel well enough and before it's too late but my problem is when I read some of the things I do, I feel as if I might not be welcome. 1) Because I'm female, which in the eyes of some will mean I'm obviously just there because I heard the latest sigma tune on the radio and I'm bandwagon jumping. I couldn't possibly be there because I genuinely like dnb and want to explore it further than I already have. 2) Some people make it seem as though I will be thoroughly questioned on my knowledge of different dnb producers and if I fail to be aware of somebody they are, then this automatically discredits me. I know not everybody in the scene is like this but for those who are, how the hell do you/they expect people to get into a genre, if you/they don't even give them a chance to? It's about time some older hardcore fans stopped trying to be so elitist. For a music scene to survive, you eventually need new fans and those younger fans (just like yourself when you first started out) won't have the same knowledge on the genre as you, this doesn't make them any less worthy of being a dnb fan or of getting into the scene as it didn't you.