Saving samples/drum synthesis

[Nutek]

i've just stumbled upon the wonderful world of drum synthesis and i am currently making kick drums to create my own sound collection for production, my question is, what "format" do i save these samples as? i'm using fruity loops and noticed that when i save a wav it creates "loop points" and cannot change the pitch of the sample. i could of course just save the sounds as mp3 but it would be a compromise on the quality..

any help appreciated!

 

[moriaty]

not entirely sure on how fl works, but loop points can be read in wave editors, and removed. see if that helps.

 

[logikz]

just turn off the time knob and uncheck the loop box

 

[groelle]

just turn off the time knob and uncheck the loop box

and upload all sounds you do afterwards

 

[thedjnifty]

I've always been really interested in this ...

How the fuck do you actually create your own drum samples from scratch?

I can understand kick drums can be made using sine waves for example but how do you make the sound of a standard snare from scratch?!

 

[moriaty]

same principle really. get your sine with pitch envelope, and instead of playing the note around 50 hz, try 150-200. then add a bit of filtered noise, and you should get a decent result

 

[Nutek]

what i couldn't work out is why only the wave files i saved showed up with loop points and not "pitch adjustable", oh well it's not too much effort unticking a couple of boxes.. i guess

 

[thedjnifty]

same principle really. get your sine with pitch envelope, and instead of playing the note around 50 hz, try 150-200. then add a bit of filtered noise, and you should get a decent result

Will it not just sound like a sine wave with a bit of filtered noise layered? lol

 

[groelle]

no, cause while the sinewave slaps in, the pitch envelope makes it sounds like its going up, like shhhhhhheeeeeeeaaaaawww. now you got to put that envelope so short it forms the s into a T and the hhhheaaaw into the tail, so you got a sound like TSH. + layered noise => TSHH = "perfect" snare..


^^^^ haha

 

[moriaty]

no, cause while the sinewave slaps in, the pitch envelope makes it sounds like its going up, like shhhhhhheeeeeeeaaaaawww. now you got to put that envelope so short it forms the s into a T and the hhhheaaaw into the tail, so you got a sound like TSH. + layered noise => TSHH = "perfect" snare..


^^^^ haha

 

[funkmod]

i know most people layer white noise on a snare im sure a little work could make a more realistic sounding snare out of white noise ?

 

[RevTech]

i know most people layer white noise on a snare im sure a little work could make a more realistic sounding snare out of white noise ?

I do this myself. It's not too hard, can even be made with 3x osc. I think combining actual snare samples with homemade snare samples are real nice actually.

 

[funkmod]

I do this myself. It's not too hard, can even be made with 3x osc. I think combining actual snare samples with homemade snare samples are real nice actually.

as long as it sounds good sure why not . Also found a little white noise over a kick drum to tie the snare and kick together works nicely but only a a very little amount.

 

[Neural Tech]

OP,

Wavs ftw.


What software are you using? There are lots of quality free Drum Synths around, but once you're ready to play with the best, slap down $90 for uTonic (best Drum VSTi in existence for price, fun factor, sound, capability, and ease of use).

 

[Nutek]

yeah i've just been fiddling with some freebies recently, i'm in love with the "marvin vst box bass drum synthesizer"

 

[RevTech]

as long as it sounds good sure why not . Also found a little white noise over a kick drum to tie the snare and kick together works nicely but only a a very little amount.

Didn't think of that, good thinking.