Russia Vs. Georgia

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  1. Catsel

    Catsel Well-Known Dismember

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    :end_of_wo could this be the slow start to WW3, Russia Vs. Nato

    Russia will crush Georgia... easily..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7551291.stm

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  2. philski

    philski smoke weed everyday

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    thats terrible, fuckin stupid if ya ask me.
     
  3. NastyLimbCheat

    NastyLimbCheat Active Member

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    russia at the moment is flexing its muscles, over the last year or so its been actively flying bombers into uk airspace and the raf has had to been scrambled to confront the russian bombers

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/07/russia.military

    theres also been rumors that russia may use cuba to refuel its nuclear bombers thus effectively giving them strategic advantages against the us.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/25/nuclear.russia

    russia has made many threats against the american proposal of a european missile shield dubbed star wars

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/09/usforeignpolicy.poland

    yea i reckon the second cold war is coming and perhaps ww3, atleast allies & EU VS russia
     
  4. philski

    philski smoke weed everyday

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    its quite scary if ya think about it, no one wants a new world war.
     
  5. Catsel

    Catsel Well-Known Dismember

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    russia has been doing this for a long time, teasing the RAF.


    you mean, ......
    lets not forget that the vast oil reserves in the artic circle are unchartered so far.... i think WW3 will start when everyone starts fighting over who gets the rights to all the oil.

    bad times ahead people... :end_of_wo enjoy the cowbell while you can :cowbell:
     
  6. Da'DGee

    Da'DGee Scousebuster

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    Russia knows that noone (even usa-worldpolice) wont do anything.. Just to show putins big balls... Can understand the arguments (automon parts..), but no reason to do something loke that..
     
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    china has the biggest armed forces, the US is second while Russia is fourth, if u look at who has the nukes tho, the UK has the 28th biggest army with 200 known nuclear weapons, the US has 9,200 nukes, unbelievably though Russia has 16,800, thats just ridiculous
     
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    i think talking about ww3 is well over the top.
    The incidents in georgia is indeed terrible, as is any pointless loss of life. But russia has a history of "taking care of business, no matter what". The theatre with the Chechen terrorists, the school in Bezlan, all proofs of the russian goverment willing to sacrifice a few of its own citizens if it means getting the "bad" guys. Also, forget about Kursk ? "we'd rather let our sailors die in a tin can 1000 feet down, than reveal the secrets of our super submarine."
    this is true communistic mentality. There's no such thing as an individual. Its about the greater good of the country.
    Also, is nuts how people only react just now to russian military actions.
    Russia to Chechenia is what Israel is to Palestine. But no one dares to give it as much publicity. You try fucking with russia's vast resources.

    Im not taking any sides here. Russia has always been fighting its wars at home, doesnt go half round the globe looking for a fight.
    Im just saying that im not worried about WW3 just yet. Perhaps anew cold war, but then again that never really stopped. They just made more channels on TV, and we kinda forgot bout it...
     
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    For god's shake man, dont buy into the whole aerospace intrusions tabloid bollocks, you're more intelligent than that. Newspapers love that shit. makes for great reports, with loads of bombs and guns for male readers, and daredevil pilot heroes for the ladies.
    Pilots do that ALL the bloody time. Back home, a day dont go by without either one of ours or Turkey's F-16's go too far into the other yard, and then the armless dogfights start. They love doing that! They've spent their lifes training to fly a $40 mil supersonic hard on, and they'll be damned if they wont have fun with them.
    I mean wouldn't any of you ?! i fukin would! and let the retards down there thinking we're going to war..
     
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    Russia's stance against the American missile shields is pretty bad, tho putin has been making loads of threats, i don't think they make empty threats......
     
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    i reckon its fair enough. america dubs every little dirty base of its into "defensive" counter measures. Russia has every right to kick off. And like i said, the Bear aint stupid. They know very well that a: theres no chance in hell for america to launch an attack now, as they're well outgunned and have too many open fronts.
    and b: if they let the americans built that star wars thing, they will be going paranoid about having to fight it off in the future.
    and similar stuff brought the first cold war.
     
  12. Dustek

    Dustek Finished the PhD

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    I'm not a fan of Russia. In fact I have the opposite attitude.

    But in this case I think Georgia is the offending party. This war started with a Georgian attack into a rebellious independence minded province (Ossetia) that was under Russia's protection. A bit like Kosovo being attacked by Serbia while under Nato protection (oh, the Canadian Nato general in charge of that war decided afterwards that he had bombed the wrong party - the Kosovans caused the war and faked genocide in order to get Nato involved).

    Seems like Russia has been seeking an international mediation on the issue of this province for quite some while - while Nato has been 'avoiding' the issue. Oh and Georgia has troops in Iraq btw. So they win the PR war. http://exiledonline.com/georgia-gets-its-war-onmccain-gets-his-brain-plaque/

    That said authoritarian Russia has a nice war on its own terms, that it will win unless Georgia's also authoritarian president gets international intervention.

    Oh and Castel - this isn't a football match. Don't write VS, mate. This isn't Chelsea vs Arsenal or Van Damme vs Seagal. People are being killed and maimed at this moment. No vs. about it. Its not a fucking contest but murderous warfare. World War II wasn't Germany vs the UK. It was a war.
     
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    Dustek Finished the PhD

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    Apart from say...

    Cuba (a certain missile crisis).

    Korea (invasion against the south).

    Vietnam (against the US).

    China (civil war in support of the communists and then a war with the communists using chemical weapons).

    Ethiopia (King Selassie bye bye).

    Honduras (certain rebels).

    Chad (via Libya).

    Libya (a certain colonel).

    Egypt (arming against Isreal)

    Syria (as above)

    Lebanon (helping the civil war along via Syria)

    Spain (cough cough, Spanish civil war)

    UK (funding of the IRA via Libya)

    Germany - did you know that the Nazi party was originally a communist organisation and Hitler might have been originally a Soviet agent. NAZI = Nationalist SOCIALIST Party.

    Poland - two invasions of Poland in 1920 and 1939 in order to conquer Europe for communism.

    Czechoslovakia - Prague spring turns into Prague massacre.

    Lithuania - invaded and conquered in 1939, 'liberated' in 1944 and then attacked again at the end of Soviet power.

    Estonia - as above.

    Ukraine - half of the country calls itself Russia.

    Belorussia - an independent country which speaks Russian and wants to be part of Russia.

    Moldavia - half of the country is occupied by Russia.

    Or Isreal - In 1948 Isreal would have been destroyed apart from a Soviet airlift of arms to the new state.

    Oh and we can't forget the Russia's rivalry with the British Empire over Afghanistan. Or over China. Or Russia vs Japan in 1905 and 1945. Oh and the Russia wars with France and the British over the Turkish Empire. Or Russia's partition of Poland with the Germans and Austria. Or Russia's war against the Hungarian.

    Bla bla.

    I could write a book on Russian imperialist aggression without exhausting the theme. Don't glamorize this empire. The US is not a nice empire and deserves criticism but its still better than Russia.
     
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  14. NastyLimbCheat

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    exactly
     
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    flying $40 mil jets isn't really a game of fun when bombers have the potential to fly anyway in the globe and deliver nukes, which is why its very serious when bombers come knocking on our door step
     
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    right now i fink im glad i moved 2 ireland!:|
     
  17. Catsel

    Catsel Well-Known Dismember

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    isn't that basically what all this is about... that way of thinking...

    personally i kind of like Russia... (my desire for world domination is prolly why lol)

    i present the Antonov 225, the biggest and best plane in the world (bigger than all US planes) they only made one, but this shows Russia dosn't want to start fights, they just wanna be seem 'better than the US'.. (this is all my opinion, not fact btw)

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    yea well your stupid, Russia is a bully and no one likes bullies. People think that its Georgia's fault for invading South Ossetia, but for past year or so Russia has been bombing parts of Georgia, whilst the Georgian Government made a plea for international diplomatic support fell on deaf ears.

    -Russia last summer dropped a missile on a radar installation
    -Russia moved 400 troops previously into Abkhazia a part of Georgia
    -Russian planes started shooting down Georgian aerial drones
    -Russian backed forces road side bombed South Oessitia


    Russia has been stirring shit for a while trying to provoke a reaction and its hardly surprising Georgia did react after the country tried to seek international diplomatic support (which we ignored)

    And now Russia has ignored a cease fire.....
     
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    That is one fucking ugly plane!
     
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