Reese modulation in FL

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  1. Artificial2

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    This is my 1st attempt at a reese which I did a while back using Sytrus, Fruity Filter and Overdrive. It's supposed to sound a bit like Sleepwalk by Matrix by the way. 12 second clip:

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/10/2137293/Artificial Reese.mp3

    I need to know where I'm going wrong with this. I've heard the Love Philter is good for reese modulation, but I haven't really got a clue where to start as it's quite a complex plug-in. Is there a specific control I should be modulating or just modulate everything in sight? I've watched a few youtube tutorials about it but they're all a bit sketchy, as if it's really a secret. I suppose if it was common knowledge everyone would be knocking out Noisia style squelching bass.

    All I know so far is that you really only need 2 saw tooth oscillators which are detuned (by about 1 hertz I find), some distortion, some flanging and then to modulate the cutoff frequency using a filter. That clip though is the result of doing those things and it sounds nothing like what I want. :confused:

    Any guidance much appreciated.
     
  2. RevTech

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    Try fruity Love Philter. I may post a tut on how to do a good reece in 3x osc.
     
  3. Artificial2

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    Cheers dude, that'd be great. Big ups!
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    youre perfectly right with the 2 detuned saws, great place to start.
    but heres a great tip, chorus BEFORE dist. and maybe after too, who knows. same with flanger. anyway, theres a lot about this if you use the search button, i can get the thread for you if i feel like it later, maybe i get some coffee
     
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    Nice one mate, I'll try that and have a look for the thread aswell. You have some coffee. :D

    Cheers.
     
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    Ah wicked stuff! :) That's exactly what I'm after. This has helped me a great deal. Thanks again dude.

    :not_worth
     
  8. there's no rule as to how many saw waves to use for a reese... You can layer 4 or 5 if you want to create richer more interesting patches. I'd start with 3. Blue has 8 osc's and can produce some mad virus style reeves
     
  9. Artificial2

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    Ah cool, cheers for the advice. This is a little thing I did earlier using just the 2. The sound reminded me of the tune Turbulence, but it probably sounds nothing like it. :lol:

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/10/2137293/Artificial Reese 2.mp3

    It sounds a bit better than the link I posted up top, I hope. I better swat up on this though cuz neuro is my favourite style of DnB.

    Big ups!
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    sounds way better man, perfectly acceptable warps. of course its all about how they sit in a mix but compared to your 1st post 100% better
     
  11. Just keep layering and twirling the cut off and resonance til and chase a sound u like ;)
     
  12. Artificial2

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    Cheers for checking that 2nd clip. I just used LFOs to modulate frequency cutoff etc rather than using automation (if that makes sense), so the warps are not really where I wanted them but I'll try automating stuff next time. I'll also try adding more oscillators. Nice one lads. :)
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    resample. do filter movements, resample, do more filter movements, resample, repeat. but slight filter movements they dont all have to be maxed out. gives it movement
     
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    I'm not even familiar with resampling yet. :confused: I'm sure it's important though so I'll make sure I do it, when I've had a look to find out how. Sounds like a simple thing that I've overlooked.

    Cheers.
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    resampling just means you record or bounce down the sample or synth with the effects on it and load it in the sampler again
     
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    Thanks man. I was just wondering the best way to do it. I rendered it to a WAV like I do an entire tune, or is there a better way to resample in FL? Is there a way of exporting it straight into Edison for example? I'm asking because each time I render a WAV the usual way it gets a little bit quieter with every resample.
     
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    click smp or smt cant remember the name on the tab.......then look at the wave showin at the bottom,left click,edit wich will open it up in edison.
     
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    Nice one mate, I'll try that shortly.
     
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    I've just followed the 34 step tutorial as well as I could with my very limited knowledge of production and it all went a bit pear shaped. :lol: There was some terminology in there that I didn't quite understand and I think it's aimed at people that know what they're doing really, unlike me. Having said that though it taught me a lot about the elements of a good reese. The main problem I had was with the resampling and EQing. I found that each time I recorded straight into Edison the resulting sample was a bit quieter (just like when rendering a whole tune) and little clicks started appearing here and there aswell. It couldn't have been clipping because I'd used some compression on the master track (though maybe I shouldn't have). It just seemed as if the quality of the sound deteriorated very slightly with each resample. I must've been doing something wrong. :confused: As for the EQing I don't know what "notching" is for example so I just sort of left it out. Also there's reference to adding a tube several times, but I'm not sure what effect that is and I don't think I've got one anyway. As I say though I learnt a lot from it. :)

    This little clip is not a result of the tutorial but I took your advice (Logikz) and made the modulation more subtle, plus added a very simple bass and beat (excuse the fruity samples).

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/10/10/2137293/Artificial Reese 2a.mp3

    Looks like this is gonna take me a while to learn properly. hehe

    Cheers to you guys for helping me out.

    Peace.
     
  20. RevTech

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    Sounds somewhat cheesy :/ Distort the mofo.

    But anyways, well put.