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- Jul 12, 2009
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- Melbourne, Australia
stop trying to make dnb or jump up or neurostep or liquid or doobstep/pretendulum or use NI massive (da key is the last one),
find a awesome sample and do whatever it takes to make that sample work in the context of a new song, dont try and make a sample something its not, love the sample, find a good home for it. (sampling is the roots of this shit)
let your instincts flow and do what feels right. Look if you really wanna make it big time hot shot style, make a tune then you (like a lot of the big shots) give it to a engineer who can mix it through some sick analog gear you cant afford and then master it and itll sound fat as something on RAM or whatever (cause chances are you wont be able to achieve that sound in your bedroom, i know producers who do and theyve been in the game for years and years, i guess its something to work towards eventually). if thats what you want.
me personally id rather get in a zone where nothing is forced and tempo is irrelevant because the sample is the key to a vibe, vibes = good tune
eventually you get to a point when concepts become a cool idea to play with but you really gotta be comfortable with your tools in that you can create any sound you want to and pull it off. if you forget about getting signed or copying someones ideas or impressing anyone all your subconscious ideas will flow through and slowly slowy you start to create your own sound. For example there probably isnt another producer around with the same set up as me and even if there is I route everything totally different all the time. Plus field recordings and the stuff i record live no one else has. It all contributes to how we all do things differently. Its a great thing.
Another important thing is, and this shits me no end about modern electronic music and producers, your background knowledge and understanding of MUSIC.
class photek quote from that video with him the guys from source direct and squarepusher he says something like 'everyones sound in jungle reflects as to what theyre into outside of jungle' eg jazz, soul, funk, reggae. Thats why in the 90's jungle was unstoppable, our current generation has too many cunts who grew up listening to music dnb or jungle or house or techno and they wanna make house and techno, theyres a huge gap in understanding and knowledge of the history of music, many producers started playing another instrument, they were not playing piano to make jump up, they liked classical music or jazz or rock, great information you can use to apply to modern electronic music.
Photek was trying to re-create the vibes he heard on miles davis records, you hear through all the old metalheadz releases how dark and deep they were, they took you to another place, they used samples tastefully and recorded themselves for this new idea of music at about 160-170 bpm (jungle) to make a new style of music. There were no templates or rules, you create a vibe/atmosphere/MUSIC and people will dig it.
However if your still learning i cant speak highly enough of trying to re-create your favourite producers sounds to LEARN how they do it, then adapt it into your own.
Ive got a mate who pretty much makes music through sampling, he just finds the best samples and to be honest if he gets his shit straight hes got the potential to be big. We started making music together and he learnt a bit of the technical side of production from me but i learnt how to approach making music from him. Its more important to not force anything and that way you will have fun with it, it will also sound good..
hopefully that gives you something to think about you and hopefully you give up making dnb and start making music end of rant
find a awesome sample and do whatever it takes to make that sample work in the context of a new song, dont try and make a sample something its not, love the sample, find a good home for it. (sampling is the roots of this shit)
let your instincts flow and do what feels right. Look if you really wanna make it big time hot shot style, make a tune then you (like a lot of the big shots) give it to a engineer who can mix it through some sick analog gear you cant afford and then master it and itll sound fat as something on RAM or whatever (cause chances are you wont be able to achieve that sound in your bedroom, i know producers who do and theyve been in the game for years and years, i guess its something to work towards eventually). if thats what you want.
me personally id rather get in a zone where nothing is forced and tempo is irrelevant because the sample is the key to a vibe, vibes = good tune
eventually you get to a point when concepts become a cool idea to play with but you really gotta be comfortable with your tools in that you can create any sound you want to and pull it off. if you forget about getting signed or copying someones ideas or impressing anyone all your subconscious ideas will flow through and slowly slowy you start to create your own sound. For example there probably isnt another producer around with the same set up as me and even if there is I route everything totally different all the time. Plus field recordings and the stuff i record live no one else has. It all contributes to how we all do things differently. Its a great thing.
Another important thing is, and this shits me no end about modern electronic music and producers, your background knowledge and understanding of MUSIC.
class photek quote from that video with him the guys from source direct and squarepusher he says something like 'everyones sound in jungle reflects as to what theyre into outside of jungle' eg jazz, soul, funk, reggae. Thats why in the 90's jungle was unstoppable, our current generation has too many cunts who grew up listening to music dnb or jungle or house or techno and they wanna make house and techno, theyres a huge gap in understanding and knowledge of the history of music, many producers started playing another instrument, they were not playing piano to make jump up, they liked classical music or jazz or rock, great information you can use to apply to modern electronic music.
Photek was trying to re-create the vibes he heard on miles davis records, you hear through all the old metalheadz releases how dark and deep they were, they took you to another place, they used samples tastefully and recorded themselves for this new idea of music at about 160-170 bpm (jungle) to make a new style of music. There were no templates or rules, you create a vibe/atmosphere/MUSIC and people will dig it.
However if your still learning i cant speak highly enough of trying to re-create your favourite producers sounds to LEARN how they do it, then adapt it into your own.
Ive got a mate who pretty much makes music through sampling, he just finds the best samples and to be honest if he gets his shit straight hes got the potential to be big. We started making music together and he learnt a bit of the technical side of production from me but i learnt how to approach making music from him. Its more important to not force anything and that way you will have fun with it, it will also sound good..
hopefully that gives you something to think about you and hopefully you give up making dnb and start making music end of rant
