Promos

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  1. Do0Bs

    Do0Bs Fo Shizzle Dizzle

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    Hey guys,

    A quick question,

    Am just about to buy some vinyls off ebay and in the description it says "mixture of promos and full releases". The tunes in question are relatively well known.

    I am just wondering whats the difference between a promo a normal release?

    Will the track be alot shorter or a cut from the released version or will it be the same?

    Cheers
     
  2. ali^

    ali^ Bigtingsagwarn

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    will usually be the same mate, just minus the artwork
     
  3. Prospekt

    Prospekt Active Member

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    Promos are the same as full release in the sense it's the same full length tune that's pressed on it, just without the artwork on it my friend.

    Btw, on your username, get rid of the D and put an N and drop the S. :teeth:
     
  4. OCR

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    Allegedly better sound quality as well.
     
  5. Do0Bs

    Do0Bs Fo Shizzle Dizzle

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    Harsh Prospekt harsh. :D

    Cheers lads, knew you guys would know. Off to spend my monies...
     
  6. Nick-ep

    Nick-ep RudeFM/In-Reach

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    Really? Never heard that b4
     
  7. OCR

    OCR SB

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    well I don't think it's been properly verified or whatever but I've read that all the vinyls get pressed on the same machine/whatever and the promos are obviously first to be cut and so will be better quality as the presses/master will be worn down later on in the process
     
  8. Teddy

    Teddy 60% Staff Member

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    i guess that makes some sense. never heard of it before but then ive never had the promo and full release and compared the quality!
     
  9. motion audio

    motion audio Active Member

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    That makes sense.

    You seen how they mass press vinyls? Someone put some videos up of it a while ago, well interesting!
     
  10. Prospekt

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    Only messing bro. :) Enjoy ya tunes.
     
  11. Goosey_J

    Goosey_J IGNORE ME

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    I doubt that's the case.

    I've heard that some promos aren't mastered as well as the full release versions as sometimes the record labels are in a hurry to get them out. While the promos are kicking around they have an extra couple of weeks to tweak the tune.

    Probably not true for all promos but I reckon definitely for some... that's why I'm guessing some tunes don't come out a full 5-6 weeks after the promo while some come out 3-4 weeks.
     
  12. DJ NUERA

    DJ NUERA 5HEAD

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    Yeah this is true,

    A couple of promo's iv had have been terribly mastered, most notibly Paint It Black by Sigma, and Stigma by Noisia were absolutely terrible for me. Quite annoying as there's no way im guna buy it twice!
     
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    boobjunkie Active Member

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    escape said a while back they almost always use the same plates to press the promos and the full releases so i guess the promos are generally microscopically cleaner pressings
     
  14. vapour 36 hertz

    vapour 36 hertz www.36hertz.com

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    that is utter bollocks

    it costs about £230 quid to master a 12"
    then about £90 for the metal stampers

    dont forget the delivery on top

    no label in the world would get a new set of mastering and stampers made for the release version than what they have allready used for the promo the costs would be fucking huuuuge

    only time this would happen is when the test presses come back with a problem and 9 times out of ten the mastering house would remaster it for free and also cover the initial costs for the metal work + delivery


    and yes a early promo with virgin stampers will sound better than a finished copy thats like the 1000th copy to come off the set of stampers cos the metal work will be fucked by then
     
  15. Goosey_J

    Goosey_J IGNORE ME

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    Thanks for clarifying! Though, if that's the case, how do you explain situations like Nuera listed above? I can vouch when I say I've had the same thing happen to me a couple of times.
     
  16. Alexi

    Alexi Drench Audio

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    Just compared a promo & full release version of Get Out Clause and the promo is definately cleaner, but I don't think that means anything because the full release is the one I play out most of the time, so it will have worn out slightly naturally.
     
  17. vapour 36 hertz

    vapour 36 hertz www.36hertz.com

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    vinyl will not wear out i have records that are over 40 years old that still play absoloutely fine

    unless ur using a stanley knife as a stylus :twisted:
     
  18. TongueFlap

    TongueFlap Flappin'

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    how? thats like saying that first chocolate out the box tastes better