Progamming Original Amens and Ruff Breakz

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  1. suff

    suff New Member

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    YO. I've been making breaks for a while now and am slowly making some progress. I like to Progamme all my beats, and minimise using drum loop samples. Apart from being more original, i also rekon u have more control.
    HOWEVER, i am struggling to reproduce an Amen or cymbal break. the kik and snares are sweet, but the cymbals just don't sound right. I think i mite need a low pitched ride and/or crash.
    Any advice or tips wud we wicked. hook us up.
     
  2. Patchie-C

    Patchie-C orate youth!

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    chop up the original amen then replay it. you can then eq each part and add distortion to get an original sound. you cant really recreate the amen from scratch :hotpants:
     
  3. suff

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    Myyeah thats what u think, anyways i don't want any replica, i want my own break, that has the same stucture and punch as an amen. I'm almost there, just got some tweakin to do. Never say never .
     
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    Affliction thought size didnt matter

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    Patchie is right what's the point trying to recreate something when you have the original at hand.... just seems like a lot of unnecessary hard work.
     
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    Affliction thought size didnt matter

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    best thing to do would be taking the original Amen into recycle, chopping up all the slices and exporting a midi file, then triggering your own drum samples using above mentioned midi file, you would *in theory* get the same quantization as the original amen but your samples would have to be spot on.
     
  6. suff

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    yeah cheerz, thats a good way to get the beat structure, but i've got all the drums apart from the cymbals in the right places, it's just finding the right cymbal. I'm 99% sure he's playin the ride but it is really low pitched. It's like cross between a crash and a ride. I've pitched down heaps of rides but they don't sound right. Listen to an amen, and see if ya kno wat i mean.
     
  7. Affliction

    Affliction thought size didnt matter

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    That low pitch ride you refer to is probably due to the limited microphone quality of the time... instead of pitching down try putting a low pass filter on instead. Also try a degrading plugin such as Cubase's Bitcrusher and turn the samplerate/bitdepth down a bit...
     
  8. suff

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    Yeah, that sounds like it to me. I guess the mics back then were'nt the best. Thats primo man, i didn't think about that. I'll let ya kno how it goes. Thanx.
     
  9. Amalgam

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    My friend vintage mics are the BIZZ-NESS!!
     
  10. Dave_Akuma

    Dave_Akuma aka composite.human

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    not just that, but you say you want your own break, yet you asked how to recreate the amen :confused: make up your mind
     
  11. NCJunglist420

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    Is that a challenge, cuz i accept!! lol jk

    btw, suff, have u tried layering different rides/crashes and maybe then adjusting pitch a volume levels? dunno if that would work but just an idea that came to me...
     
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