Poor people

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  1. herojuana

    herojuana hairy kuala

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    OK so I was watching newnight and they are banging on about homeless families being in B&B accommodation which is shit.


    Except the are viewing the room of one family (mum and 2 kids) who got kicked out of their housing for not paying rent. they were all pushing on to overweight at the very least and had Iphones, nintendo DSs and a widescreen tv. They are moronic if they can't pay rent but can have that many extremely luxury items. I know people with good jobs who can't afford an iphone (or at least justify it). Why the fuck is the council paying hundreds a week to put them up in a B&B? They are evidently just useless pricks


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  2. Psychoholic

    Psychoholic Quantum Cunt

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  3. dirty breaks

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    neuter them, round them up and take them to work camps to earn their keep.
     
  4. rysk

    rysk Part-time waster

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    because there are always gonna be people who put material possessions before their own or their kids health/roof/safety....and those people are cunts and should have their genitalia removed with an angle grinder.


    but just because a minority of people on benefits are this way, doesn't mean we should just say "fuck it" and stop giving the help that a lot of people need because a few are misusing it. Only way to stop this sort of shit is to find a way to make sure people aren't misusing their benefit...and good luck with that
     
  5. dirty breaks

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    you only say that because you suckle on the cold hard teat of the jobcentre
     
  6. ThePapa

    ThePapa Suffragette City..

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    This is the list of types of people towards which councils have a duty of care to house...so long as they didn't make themselves intentionally homeless (owing rent etc) and they can show they 'belong' to that borough...

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/52/section/189

    They get put in temporary accommodation until the council has established whether or not they have a duty towards them. This can mean B&B's, hostels, anywhere really and landlords charge a bomb especially in London because there's a shortage of housing. The alternative is to leave them on the streets Hero and no one wants to go back to a Dickensian style London I would have thought.

    Incidentally the Labour party made councils publish what's called the Local Housing Allowance which is the most housing benefit will pay for a room/flat in your area. This meant that landlords knew how much to ask for and had the effect of bumping up the average rent (with a knock on effect to the rest of the rental market).

    HTH.
     
  7. spitnuk

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    Maybe they suddenly lost their jobs as is the case with a lot of people at the moment. Maybe they had their hours cut. Maybe their landlord put their rent up. Maybe they had allowances reduced. Maybe you're just a cunt.
     
  8. rysk

    rysk Part-time waster

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    i actually don't anymore.

    don't need it, won't take it.
     
  9. dirty breaks

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    LIES
     
  10. herojuana

    herojuana hairy kuala

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    I know a lot of people are in the situation where there isn't another option really, a lot of the families of kids in my school are very up against it for instance, but to do a serious news report and choose those people to represent... fuck that, it's just retarded.

    and they go on about how it's inhumane conditions. Go to a third world country and see that shit. the only human right they MAY have had violated is the right to a family but they have taken that away by spending their money on luxury goods rather than living how most people realise you need to live. If you can't afford something, don't get it. If you can't afford something, and get it at the expense of say not paying your rent I am afraid that you are a cunt, when one of the councils admitted that they can spend 400 quid a week putting up a single family in a B&B.

    A lot of the benefits system is fucked but that "journalism" really pissed me off. They blamed the council for the hotels lack of fixing a lock on a window. That is 100% the hotels responsibility, and yes the council should hold the hotel accountable, but if they don't know that's happened how can they
     
  11. charlie131

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    fuck this all getting serious shizzle. Two families have to fight it out to the death, the winner obviously gets the b&b room, if their are children left over, they can be turned into butlers for the winning family. All the losers possessions would be sold off to fund winners rent. Problem solved

    It would be like celebrity death match but with poor people
     
  12. spitnuk

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    If you want to get angry at people crewing over the country, poor people who have widescreen TVs (lol at that being some measure of luxury) aren't deserving of your anger, have a look at how much money gets syphoned out of the country by rich cunts who don't like paying anything towards the society that made them rich. You won't be so disgusted by someone in a B&B who owns a DS.
     
  13. ThePapa

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    In fairness though rich cunts have actually earned their money even if they do their best to avoid giving some of it back. It is a bit galling to see speeches being made about child poverty in this country when it only exists if the parents mismanage what they're given...usually through drugs or general fecklessness.

    Hero Councils are struggling to find places full stop. There are rules around children sharing rooms above a certain age so it can get very expensive housing large families. Whether or not it's their responsibility to fix things depends on the leasing arrangements but frankly unless they get more funding for that sort of thing it's a bit pointless pointing fingers at the council.

    Where people often trip up is when the rent gets paid to the tenant rather than the landlord (most landlords wont take you if they know you're on housing benefit) and they end up spending it on other things. But then if they get in arrears because of that the council doesn't sort them out Hero they either beg for a crisis loan or they get booted out. Most of these luxury goods that you see are bought with tax credits which were introduced by Blair to end child poverty and are widely seen as too generous. That and the fact the goods are cheap because they're often nicked.

    HTH.
     
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  14. dirty breaks

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    all those words.

    cba to read.
     
  15. ThePapa

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    Dagz Well-Known Member

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    Where's fucking Robin Hood when you need him
     
  19. dirty breaks

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    i wouldn't mind giving her a porking.
     
  20. IV4

    IV4 Currently a newt.

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    I say let us all kill the people who have "earned" their money. Starting with bankers.

    Hey umm... we are super rich and all..... but ehhh... can we have couple trillion dollars?http://www.cnbc.com/id/45674390/The_Size_of_the_Bank_Bailout_29_Trillion

    The truth is rich people get more welfare and subsides than poor people. They take your taxes in the trillions or billions (depending where you live) just to stay rich. But you guys are getting all bent out of shape over some poor retard who possibly played the system and got an iphone out of it? Fuck! In fact go fuck your self and your misdirected anger. Sense most of you live in the U.K. here is something close to home.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17225652
    or http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12447635
    Thats right 30 billion pounds to a bank. What is that like 111,524,163.569 iphones?

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