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  1. hyperd4eva

    hyperd4eva H&M SCARVES

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    The best DVS to buy.. Serato or Traktor ? is there one that out runs the other? or both just as good. Im so new to all this i dont really know what the hell to look for
     
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    As a vinyl head myself, I am constantly comparing the two...

    Personally I think if your looking for something with no frills, that plays between vinyl and your digital timecodes Serato is better IMO. It was easier to flick between digital and thru line to go between mediums which was a massive thing for me.

    However, if money is an issue i'd get Traktor. One of my closest mates just invested and it was remarkably cheaper than the similar Serato model.

    From what I understand on Serato you can also "needle drop" for cue points on the timecode plates...something I've never tried myself, but if your used to cueing up tunes on vinyl then I'm sure this will be more realistic than pressing the various hit keys on traktor for your cue points.

    Pro's and Con's for both.
     
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    Im a serato user, i love it but i do know some people that switched from serato to traktor and rate traktor more.
     
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    hyperd4eva H&M SCARVES

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    LOL i dont really want it to be fair, im just ruining my bank account to bloody regularly now! its getting ridiculous!
     
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    i assume your a vinyl head hyperd4eva? im having the same issue with the money. spending so much on vinyl and theres a lot of choons that onyl get a digi release now. I dont think id ever get a DVS but im half tempted to get a cdj as a 4th deck just for those unreleased ones. i tried my mates traktor out and really couldnt get my head round it!
     
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    hyperd4eva H&M SCARVES

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    yeah man, CDJ's are just bloody expensive! although i hate the thought of playing out and relying on a laptop. its asking for trouble surely!?
     
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    i bagged serato tone.
    i cant compare it to tractor coz ive never used it.
    i like serato, it does what its supposed to. mix digital tracks like vinyl but without a soul.
    i wouldn't be that keen taking it to play out anywhere tho.
     
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    hyperd4eva H&M SCARVES

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    yeah i know what you mean, maybe CDJ's would be a better option then, some ssecond hand ones or whatever. I really just want to stop witht he vinyl spending. as long as decent tunes are released i iwll buy them! and i just cant afford it atm!
     
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    i was facing the same issue more than year ago. since i stopped buying vinyl and started buying digital instead, i needed some kind of a platform to play those tunes - thought about getting a cdj 900 or something, but after a while i came back to earth and realized that decent cdj-s are just too much for my little budget. i didn't know almost anything about dvs back then, but remembered hearing the word "serato" from somewhere. next stop: google!

    so i had 2 sets of turntables and bunch of digital tunes - dvs seemed to be a perfect fit. after a little research i decided to get traktor - it was a lot cheaper and people were saying it has tighter vinyl control, meaning it is more realistic to real vinyl than serato.

    having used traktor a while, i can say it's sometimes really frustrating. i mean for example the following could easily be the usual scenario if dealing with traktor: in order to start spinning you have to start your computer, connect some cables, start traktor, wait 20 minutes for a consistency check, then realize that some tunes are still not analyzed - restart traktor, analyze them manually, then realize somethings wrong in the configuration - mess around another 20 minutes to get the signal and etc etc.

    with regular cd or vinyl all you have to do is start your decks and mixer and off you go. so simple. and this is the way it should be.

    now if using traktor and you want to switch from timecoded vinyl to real vinyl, you have to go through this shit: move the mouse cursor to a deck, press it, select direct thru from the dropdown menu, click and another click for confirm. there is a better way if you have multicore cables. just switch from line in to phono on your mixer and you're all set - easy and a lot better way - thing is, those cables cost 20 uk money a pair!

    i haven't tried serato, but i've heard it's simpler, more stable and doesn't have any unnecessary crap... and this kind of software has to be stable by any means.

    traktor is like windows or something. if you know it and have configured it properly and know what to do not to crash it or fuck it up otherwise, it runs pretty well and does it's job...but imo it's definitely not foolproof.

    so for summary i would say that i would definitely go with cdj-s to play digital music, but if budget is an issue then traktor will do fine, but also bear in mind that you might have to go trough a lot of hassle with this software ;) + multicore cables are a must if you also want to spin real vinyl (which you of course want to) ;)
     
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    ^^ thanks mate. very helpful
     
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    You have to calibrate Traktor every time?
    You dont with serato, although calibrating it every now and then will help.
     
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    People who play out - do you find DVS to be reliable or do you shit yourselves everytime you play?
     
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    after reading that i would say get serato.
    plug in, start application, play. no messing.
    switch from dvs to vinyl by flicking the phone/line switch.
     
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    tbf alot of people say serato.
     
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    This may not be much help but im a Traktor user and its AMAZING i made the switch from using 2x 1210s and a pioneer cdj to using a S4 controller and it was one of the best moves ive done. Yeah it might not have the 'soul' of vinyl or what ever people say!! But the things you can do with Traktor compared to what i used to use is so much more and alot of fun.
     
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    I hear ya loud and clear.

    Yes...because its simple, as Teds has detailed.

    Personally I wouldn't go lower than SL-2 though..SL-1 looks really dated in comparison to it...

    & to confirm the Traktor thing switching between "live input" for vinyl and "track deck" is a lot longer process than Serato.
     
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    hyperd4eva H&M SCARVES

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    To be honest, im not one for trying out loads of different things when mixing, not a fan of teases for example, i just like it to blend for a while! furthest i go is the odd little cross fader switches or whatever!
     
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    i've never had any issues playing out with serato, the only issues i've had are with needles or decks themselves.

    Just don't use the laptop you use for playing out for stashing your extensive porno collections or you will inevitably encounter issues down the line.

    tbh get serato, but burn back up cds anyway so if something should go wrong you can switch to those. as i mentioned its never been serato that has stopped working for me, just decks.
     
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    Keep spare control CDs. always.
     
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    ^^ this, had to switch halfway on friday, wasn't fun but better than nothing..