pass the bong and car keys mate?

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  1. Alba

    Alba geddiddinya

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    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15926841-29277,00.html
    i pose this question...

    if driving on drugs is so dangerous, then why were the authorities not aware that so many drivers are under the influence of illegal substances? wouldnt they already know from accident data?
     
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    reminds me of my uncle the seasoned top-cop in Perth (best mates with Karl O'Callaghan if that means aught to you Alba) who somehow manages to be appalled when I wear all black (like a criminal) or go nightclubbing (like a criminal)

    this is a man who has chased armed robbers on foot and nailed them, yet he is 'disturbed' when faced with my lifestyle. its bullshit, pure and simple. I agree, any cop with half a brain has a real clue what the stats are like.

    underlying police message = this is a hidden threat, so hidden even we didn't know. so shut up and give us a swab matey.

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    Alba geddiddinya

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    yeh i know Karl. i work for Police and Nurses and he is a member of our board of directors.

    i guess the point i am making though is, have they done enough testing of the swab method to determine what are dangerous levels of these drugs? as they havent identified the swab for WA yet, i am not sure what the levels in your blood have to be to get you nicked. i hear they are miniscule. so small that if you have a bender on sat night and get swabbed on the way to work on monday, you have a good chance of getting nicked. thats just not right in my book.
     
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    when it comes to drug driving, there isnt a allowable dosage..
    Its illegal, you shouldnt have done it in the first place, let alone driving...

    bollox i say, driving stoned is much safer than drink driving imo.
     
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    dunno man i've seen people forget some nasty things when driving stoned, like LIGHTS, SPEED and JUNCTIONS!
     
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    moriaty Active Member

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    yeah, and all that while doin 25mph, cos you aint bothered to go faster...
    or thats how it works with me at least..
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    totally agree, its fucked. so glad WA is jumping on the wandbagon :-x . the first case that went through court here got tossed straight away for this reason and they merrily continued charging people anyway.

    :ban:



    i bank with pncs, freaky.
     
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    Alba geddiddinya

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    in australia, it isnt iilegal to have drugs in your system, or be under the influence. it is illegal to possess, sell and conspire to do either.
    LOL
    uh oh :teeth:
     
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    on the contrary they cannot prove that the drugs have been injested voluntarily: you could of passivly inhaled your mates pot or you may of had your drink spiked.....all in all there is no prove or proven registered data to use as a comparioson table to if caught with drugs in your system.

    this new legislation will have so many in's and outs based on not a hell of a lot - -id say for a good few years we'd be able to fight a lot of their claims.

    They will soon have to make judgement on the levels found in our system: for example pseduoephrodrine being located in cold and flu tablets: would that mean we'd have a positive reading of drugs and then threfore be fined -

    it may be illegal but then again so is drink driving: and all we get is a fine...so is speediing but all we get it a fine

    ...not a very stable legislation at all.
     
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    i mean on that note as well.......the 60s were depicted as a time of free love and drugs : why is that so celebrated?
    its double standards complete and utter bollocks

    anyone want a good read check out ben eltons higher society : fabulous novel questioning drugs and legalisation of them

    FUCK DA MAN
     
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    Indi Tha Original ThreadKilla!

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    a complete :shittin: on the govts part
     
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    blatent scare tactics.

    You will find they will have backed themselves into a hole. they need to have a properly designed enforcement plan - - - they will need to know how to test appropriate levels and then a fines plan etc similar to drink driving


    governement = high school drop outs
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    LOL

    fuckers probably were doped up to the nines back in the sixties
     
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    Alba geddiddinya

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    whats the penalties they are trying to enforce? anyone know without me trying to find a needle in a haystack on vic gov website?
     
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    Indi Tha Original ThreadKilla!

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    I remember reading in High Times about studies in the UK on drivers under the influence of weed. They states that drivers were far less likely to be a danger on the road than any other substance, and even less dangerous than a driver who was very tired. The reason they said was that people who were stoned when driving were actually aware of their impairment and compensated by driving more carefully. Apparantly this was a factor in the decision to decriminalise weed from a class B to a class C drug. This article was in the same issue of High Times as when Snoop won Stoner of the Year.
     
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    Dustek Finished the PhD

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    I read that statistic as : One in 50 people are stoned all the time.

    Which isn't too surprising.

    So how's the war on drugs going? Pretty effective (yn)
     
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    Alba geddiddinya

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    hahaha
    post of the week!
     
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    HEY fucker you got an avatar
    I WANT ONE : cheeky going to post three comments in three different posts
    well i never....

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