Hi Guys, have read the sticky's first, so please don't murder me if in wrong place! Background of me: 18 years ago I used to mess around in Octamed and ProTracker 2 on the Amiga 1200 - both trackers. About 10 years ago I played with Reason 3, but never got into it, was overwhelmed with the options and a different workflow most likely. I then did a little bit in Renoise on the PC as I felt more comfortable as it is also a tracker. --- Fast forward to today and I am playing around with Reaper 4.x and Fruit Loops 11.x and really want to invest the time/years to learn sound design and do it all proper - even looking at production courses in London. More for my own enjoyment and hobby. i have studio monitors, soundcard and about to get a midi/usb keyboard. Maybe I am getting the workflows wrong, but the current place I am at is, I can 'sequence' or 'layer' or 'mix' multi tracks to form a (shit!) song from existing samples packs, but am I starting at the wrong place? I want to create my own loops and rifts - not simply construct them from sample packs like something from that Playstation game Music 2000 and have the same sounds as others! Is this where VSt's like Massive come in or are they more filters to manipulate the sound of current .WAV's? Do you guys have separate days you create your own loops to create a luibrary of them? I want to experiment and create my own. Where within these programs would I do that starting from scratch? Thank You for your patience! Any help appreciated!