Hey guys, new member here looking for some advice! I've been looking through the web loads lately trying to find a starting point for jump up synths, but all i can find are your basic detuned saw waves etc. I'm looking to get a newer jump up sound, that squelchy grotty stabby sound. (hedex, natural error, jack the ripper, annix, etc). I'm not trying to rip off these sounds I'm just absolutely stumped on where to start, can anyone give me a few tips or places i could start? I currently use NI massive in ableton 9. Thanks in advance!