Neurofunk drum processing and programming

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  1. Rajstah Vibe

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    I'm stuck on trying to get those punchy yet neat drums... but all what I get is a distorcion by adding too much of distorcion and shapers and so on...
    Where's the trick on getting such powerful drums?
    On the mix levels?

    Also, what are the most rolling shuffle on the patterns?
    I've noticed that many times there's a kind of ghost kick rolling between the accents of the kick and snare...
    My experience is to always try to combine different patterns of hihat with different accents and writing some shuffles on a kind of rim-snare or different snare.
    but I don't know why, most of the time I can't reach that great rolling drums that you can ear on big release tunes...

    Would be lovely to see a drums midi pattern of a Billain or Spor track!

    What's your advice on this matter?
     
  2. Bad Ace

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    try to shorten the ghost and accents so they are kinda ticking. i sometimes put a chorus on them to make them sound abit wider. just experiment
     
  3. horace111

    horace111 My name is Jago (HYQXYZ)

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    Ok punchy neuro drums:

    1) Sample use, use good clean samples, it's okay if they need some processing , but make sure they have a nice frequency range, good sound with no additional noises.
    2) Don't get compressing too early, start off with some neat eq'ing, make sure your sample sounds full, yet make sure that there is space for each sound and for your bassline. (Good tuts can be found on dnbforum if i'm not mistaken)
    3) Pitch up your snare samples, this is for me what makes the drums punchy. I use a lot of the snares in the High ranking dubstep tearout pack. (No product placement haha) If you pitch them up about 5 or 6 semitones they start to get really punchy and nearly get a tone. Which is what you need
    4) Next up Make sure you cut the tail of off your samples, don't overdo this, but make sure that the beat is not too loose sounding. It should tick like a clock yet roll like a Ferrari.
    5) To add additional punch to the snares (and maybe you kicks if it's needed, I don't do this personally). Add a reverse hi-hat before your snare drum , so you have a little attack and than a boom, this sounds extremely snappy, and it works very well imo.
    6) Hi-hats & cymbals: I usually just keep the high frequencies and eq-out the rest, removing all additional and unneeded noise. In terms of samples, it doesn't really matter and is usually determined by the tune itself. I do like to use Electro-house hi hats though, because they sound quite sharp , and have a short tail.
    7) Ghost notes, add additional swing & rythm by using ghost notes. I usually just put these rhythms in my hi-hat patterns , but you could use some ghost-snare samples as well, just make sure you don't break the flow or brutality of your drums.
    7) Do additional compressing & Processing: I honestly never do this, I only play with envelopes , EQ's and volumes, but if you really need that boost , add some compression where needed , and process your drum beats to your desire.
    -Important-
    Make sure that your drums are at all times at a reasonable volume and keep an eye on the frequency use, you're nothing with the best beat in the world if you can't layer a dirty bass line under it (;

    Hope this helps you a little!
    -Hyqxyz
     
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    horace111 My name is Jago (HYQXYZ)

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    As for patterns , here are some of the ones I've heard the most & I use the most frequently, it's just hi-hat, kick , snare, ghostsnare so you'll have to add additional percussion on your own (;
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    Big ups on that post horace! That pretty much sums up anything I had in mind haha. And the high frequencies are almost as important as where the kick or the snare hits I've noticed. Because thats what makes your drums come trought the mix, specially for the kick.
     
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    horace111 My name is Jago (HYQXYZ)

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    No problem man, glad I could help you (;
     
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    Mr Fletch aka KRONIX

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    Some useful tips here already. I reckon between this and the big bass thread, we'll all be able to produce utter bangers lol!
     
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    Exactly what I was looking for!

    Very interesting post Horace, thank you very much for supporting and share your technique. :beers:

    Yeah, overprocessing is a bitch... and it's so easy to fall into it!
     
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    pitching the snare up 5-6 semitones? my drums sound shit whenever i pitch more than 2/3 semi tones. should try this...big up
     
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    Rajstah Vibe soundcloud.com/rajstah

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    After a long day trying to get the most of it... I got a drum pattern for my track.
    But still, I think the hats are a bit cheesy!
    What do you reckon?



    here mixed with the track



    don't ask me how I did those drums... It's been a looong process! :mad_guy:
     
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    Check out this vid. It's from Receptor. Really useful.

     
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  12. Rajstah Vibe

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    Big up for this vid!
    Great job
     
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    watching this as soon as im home... his new tune Kislorod is a fucking masterpiece and its free on his soundcloud!!!!!
     
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    horace111 My name is Jago (HYQXYZ)

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    Might've been a bit specific for my sample choice, exact values should be decided upon drum creation (; You're totally right about that.
    Here's an example of my favorite snare though, first 4x is at sample pitch, next 4 times is +5 semitones , last 5 times is at +9
    The last one sounds a lot like mefjus if you cut of its tail (;
    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14957633/snaresample.mp3
    Mefjus:
     
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  15. Rajstah Vibe

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    That snare sounds like the metronome click of Logic :D
     
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  16. Rajstah Vibe

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    Audio Huge tut

    Big up to Audio for this HUGE tutorial!!!!!

    [video=youtube_share;uENUJl_MqBM]http://youtu.be/uENUJl_MqBM[/video]
     
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    this one should be a sticky !
     
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    +1
     
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    maybe not neurofunk , but his drums are big !

     
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    he works on a god awful slow comp man! You can see in the vid how clicky and laggy it all is, his latency is terrible! And why is there no talking? Still, good end result!
     
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