Need help making sweet hard drums

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  1. Nicholas Stigma

    Nicholas Stigma STEADY ON OL' CHAP

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    I'm making some drum breaks based on Dsorg samples
    Its about 200 kicks, 200 snares etc.

    I'm making a break using FPC.
    But it turns out the breaks are dull and ugly even If i use a compressor.

    I would love a sound like this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBc3vlS7uJA

    Im using FL studio 10 Producer Edition
    Commonly Effects I use: Fruity Compressor, Limiter ,Parametric EQ 2

    Any tips appreciated
     
  2. d-low

    d-low I know you got soul

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    generally speaking, most layer existing breaks with original drums, to create that typical dnb "break" sound, its very hard to make that authentic rolling drum sound just using single hits although it can be done with experience
     
  3. d-low

    d-low I know you got soul

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    finding the right single hits is important also, as they say you cant polish a turd, it can be near impossible to make a decent snare out of something that is wack to start with
     
  4. Attire

    Attire Last Winter

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    How can you tell what makes a sample 'good' then? Drum layering is something I need to work on...
     
  5. Mr Fletch

    Mr Fletch aka KRONIX

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    Umm.....use your ears, listen to it? If the hit sounds good to start with, itll sound even better once EQed and processed
     
  6. ARTFX

    ARTFX www.artfx-studios.com

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    Also take a look at processing by using send channels. Parallel compression and parallel tape distortion are your friend!
     
  7. Kdance

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    There is only one way to know if a sample sounds good, experience..

    You will eventually train your ears. I am willing to bet if you can't tell a good or bad sample yet then you can't even hear what a compressor is actually doing. You don't need a compressor for banging breaks. It's all about layering and starting out with good base samples..

    Also make your Kick mono...
     
  8. Attire

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    No, I know how to tell a good sample from a bad one, I was just wondering if there are any other techniques people use.
    My mistake.
     
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    There are TONS of techniques, it also depends on how you like to work and build.. I personally use Cubase and do all my edits right there in the sequencer with one shots but everybody is different..

    Layering is your friend when trying to get punch or a different sound... Also be careful using a compressor on samples in a lot of the sample packs, they are already supa dupa compressed...
     
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    Post your attempt, so we can make suggestions for what you can improve
     
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    Speaking of which, anyone got some good guides or something on compression? Need to start fully understanding the concept behind it instead of just tossing some random knobs
     
  12. Attire

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    This is a good one I think.
     
  13. Kdance

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    This was Ed Rush's i think, may have been Dom's, can't remember...

     
  14. d-low

    d-low I know you got soul

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    also, a very helpful (and seemingly very obvious tip), would be to always try cutting the decay down on your drum samples, and seeing how they sound... A lot of drums sound way neater without those tales attached
     
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    Indeed, but it all depends on the sound your going for. Generally in dnb though, you want your drums tight so that decay can go...
     
  16. d-low

    d-low I know you got soul

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    thanks for that
     
  17. Nicholas Stigma

    Nicholas Stigma STEADY ON OL' CHAP

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    Here is a WIP

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    Let me know what you guys think
     
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    Sounds like a classic break...

    Are you trying to make it step or bounce?
     
  19. Nicholas Stigma

    Nicholas Stigma STEADY ON OL' CHAP

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    You are right, I fixed the tune.
    Its a WIP nodaways.

    I've added also a bassline just to test if the drums match!
    CnC

     
  20. Kdance

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    That snare has a LOT of noise on it, it's almost piercing. Layer that bitch up and roll off some the high freqz...