music theory

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  1. blowa

    blowa New Member

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    Hi all

    I'm trying to improve my music theory as it's poor. i'm trying to break things down a little bit and want to know what key / scales people use to write their dnb tracks?

    does it make a lot of difference what key / scale you use?

    like I said my music theory is poor!!!

    Cheers
     
  2. Simply D.

    Simply D. Polysonic

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    First off, i would learn some chords and scales on a piano.

    Search for some music theory guides online.

    google is your best friend.

    and yes it makes quite a bit of difference which keys/scales you use.
     
  3. blowa

    blowa New Member

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    Hi

    I've learn't some scales and a few chords. I been told how to find out the root note as well. The thing is knowing which scale to use?

    the reason I would like to know what others use is so I can stick o that scale / key for a while when writing tunes and improving my synthesis.

    What scale do you use the most?
     
  4. TongueFlap

    TongueFlap Flappin'

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    Use any. It doesnt matter really. What ever is best for you.

    but... I wouldn't suggest byzantine, haha!
     
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  5. kama

    kama benkama.net

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  6. blowa

    blowa New Member

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    Cheers kama. I'm already aware of this and im reading through this guide and getting some good knowledge.
     
  7. Forau

    Forau CONCUSSION RECS

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    What the shit! I made a thread entitled exactly this and somehow i whipped up a shit storm of hate and aggression. lol.
     
  8. ThePapa

    ThePapa Suffragette City..

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    Shhhhhh! People are nicer to each other in this section Deddy.
     
  9. luciduk

    luciduk Active Member

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    thing is, it wasnt exactly like this, your thread was entitled "Drum and Bass Theory", asking for theory knowledge of dnb.

    said thread:

    http://dnbforum.com/showthread.php?113804-Drum-and-Bass-Theory
     
  10. jimjimjim

    jimjimjim oldskool

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  11. ThePapa

    ThePapa Suffragette City..

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    Why?
     
  12. TongueFlap

    TongueFlap Flappin'

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    Well its kinda not your normal scale. Unless you like your Arabian DnB? ha
     
  13. ThePapa

    ThePapa Suffragette City..

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    I do. Not enough of it round really.

    How would you define what a note is to a lay person tongueflap? I'm just wondering if there's something in the quality of each note that's independant of us...

    I only ask because if I hear someone singing flat it affects me in way that I feel is not the result of conditioning.
     
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  14. ThePapa

    ThePapa Suffragette City..

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    Basically for a note to sound true it doesnt require us to come to an agreement on it yet they arent the same across cultures so what's going on tongueflap?
     
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  15. T:M

    T:M Dusty Techno Workout

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    I think chords/scales are definitely the key. I find the advice in here good, especially that guide that kama posted. If you are on a Mac platform then I suggest checking out some of the Widgets under the music category, there are some good ones there for chord referencing. Piano Theory in particular I use regularly, it offers not only chord references but also a variety of scale references too.
     
  16. Innovine

    Innovine Active Member

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    I'm curious about the application of chord progessions in dnb, which sounds pretty monotonic to me. Should you do something like the following:

    1.decide on a chord progression
    2. pick bassline notes from the chords (not necessarily the root)
    3. pick other notes from the chords for use by a lead instrument (or instruments)

    This way, the chords would be more implied by the combination of instruments, rather than played by a single instrument (like on a guitar). Or am I completely off the mark?

    Like for instance, if you have a chord, which then changes to a 7th, you bring in a (monophonic) new sound that's playing that 7th note...?
     
  17. subprime

    subprime Dysjoint

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    Yeah man, you can do that. Try some 6ths and 9ths (2nd note up an octave) Also don't be afraid to try some passing notes that aren't in the scale, or learn some of the modes and use them for a riff.

    Just don't lose sight of the fact, if it sounds good it is good.
     
  18. groelle

    groelle Well-Known Member

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    @papa jaro: you obviously have no clue of musical theory, do you?

    there are different sorts of scales for every part of the world. just we, the "western world" somehow use the same chords. there are byzantinien scales, chinese and japanese modes etc ..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_mode
     
  19. ThePapa

    ThePapa Suffragette City..

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    Thanks Groelle. I'll start reading...

    I have to say I had no idea that scales were linked to different moral characters.
     
  20. logikz

    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    im a little uncomfortable with the fact that if you dont follow music theory the tones will be all wrong your song will sound shit.