so, when we had our badman belt clip alba cassette players... they were proper fucking loud. then dicsmans came about.. and you were lucky if you had a pocket itd fit in.. and itd skip like fuck. basically wank chops. but still loud a fwerk. then, ipod.. 1st & 2nd gen ipods were loud. but now.. i got this ipod nano thing and its proper quiet. and my blackberry aint much louder. i like my dnb with some nice bass. cassette player days type of loud, is it happening? can you get loud mp3 players these days? or are they all abit tame. fuckin wounded that my ipod nanos wank.. i know it due to the size, tiny amp / power ... ive got decent headphones.. just need an ipod that'll do more than tickle me left nut.