mac vs pc

Just gona let ya know if you are considering a mac and do go for logic pro 9 go to rm.com and look for logic 9 on there £104 i payed for mine. Bit of a bargain ;) and you don't have to be a student any body can buy off there even tho its an educational suppler lol
Ohh plus they sell imac's and macbooks and that on there pretty cheap.
 
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So you'd rather spend £2000 to accomodate your soundcard, rather than £900ish on a 21" iMac and £200ish on a decent soundcard?

Seem illogical to me.

riisu what a slap in the face , your totally right man , i can always keep my card in my pc at home for when i come back
i think ive made up my mind
 
No worries man, just seemed like the obvious thing to do!
Check out the prices and spec you want obvious and just make a decision, you won't regret it.
 
i come down firmly in the mac corner. it's not just the reliability for me, it's total cost of ownership. customer service is sooo much better than any PC company. macs aren't perfect, but the service is. any problem, take it to the genius bar. also, you don't need a mac pro, and imac or macbook pro will do more than fine. check out apple's website (bottom left of the store page) for refurbished macs that still come with the warranty.
 
how did you get logic for £120!?!?

Students get silly discounts with them man. Around 20% off if you are at university. Mainly applies to the software and computers themselves. You don't get as much with mice, keyboards, cables etc.
 
Just gona let ya know if you are considering a mac and do go for logic pro 9 go to rm.com and look for logic 9 on there £104 i payed for mine. Bit of a bargain ;) and you don't have to be a student any body can buy off there even tho its an educational suppler lol
Ohh plus they sell imac's and macbooks and that on there pretty cheap.

How'd you get away with that if you're NOT an educational institute?
Take the piss, the 27" iMac is going for £1102 on there!!!!
 
I'm fucked off and happy in equal measures that you've brought that site to my attention, but I wana know how you get away with it, there's gotta be some sorta catch?!!?!
 
I'm fucked off and happy in equal measures that you've brought that site to my attention, but I wana know how you get away with it, there's gotta be some sorta catch?!!?!

Naa 100% legit, one of my lecturer's at college told us about it. They dont even ask what college or uni you go to. lol, and I have no idea how they do there macs for so cheap but can't really complain.
 
I own a macbook, and use it for music, and would like to share some stuff with you.

I regularly use ableton live, but I have checked out Logic aswell. Wasn't really my thing. z3ta and massive both work fine without any problems. As does a bunch other stuff. I've a couple of different pieces of gear: 2 korg electribes, an access virus, two midi interfaces, a hercules rmx console soundcard, and a few other bits and shit. and a roland e-drumkit. The mac just slides in with hardware workflow really well. I've used PCs for years, and in comparison they are inflexible, clumsy, and you never really get free of configs and clicking on fiddly things. Granted, the mac does have a bit of this too, but overall the experience is way cleaner, refined and well worth the money to avoid having to experience how windows handles these same issues. The day to day experience with OSX is far nicer than windows.

I use linux full time at work (I develop digital TV software on an embedded linux platform) and am familiar how linux does things. Unlike the other 2, linux does not eventually get all messed up, it just runs and and runs and runs. It's also neat for development and data management, and has a well developed keyboard only interface. Drag and drop file management like you'd so in explorer is rubbish. I mention linux for two reasons, one to let you know I use a whole bunch of OSes and am not biased, and two, as OSX has, under the surface, a quite linux-like interface too. It's not quite as mature but its powerful and works good. When it comes down to it, linux is a powerful server/developer platform, and OSX is a powerful, comfortable media workstation. Windows is a gaming platform, techy, tweaky, unstable as hell and a jack-of-all-trades (and master of none).

Now the bad. My macbook has been working for 3 years, but the macbook hard drive died on me after just 1 year. I brought it back and got it replaced with a new one, but a year later that failed, but it was under guarantee still too, so I ended up with a new one again. They preinstalled leopard for me, which cost the same as the drive, so I came out mostly even. I often conenct and extra monitor and one day when i pulled it out the macbook crashed. It's had power problems ever since; standby mode never finishes and it just sits there with the fans on, and it takes 7mins to boot while it waits for some error to time out. These are big irritations but it works fine when its working. I suspect a reinstall will cure this. The reinstall is as easy as windows takes about as long. I wont even have to mess with as many drivers afterwards. BUT, since my OS came pre-installed on the drive, I don't have an install CD. I'll have to talk to the shop again, or download a cracked version. This is annoying and has been lingering for a while. I'd have solved it with windows by now by myself. OSX still outlasted a typical windows install before it started to get fouled.

The plastic on the edge of the keyboard has developed some crumbling. I think the build quality is not so good, but the modern machines use aluminium so it's probably better now.

So, in summary, while the system is up and running, it's lovely to use. Worth every penny, totally amazed me really. You cant experience the workflow it offers without owning your own. A few mins messing with it in a store is not enough, too bad. If you have the chance to get one, and are creative, like using computers to do things like making music and blogging it and downloading friends tracks, rather than tweaking and pimping your machine for the sake of the art for which it is, then I sooo recommend it to you. OSX is luxurious and expensive feeling and fucking NICE. Your problems with hardware and configs and updates and popups and antivirus and ads and bugs and exploits will all vanish. Poof. Lastly, consider the background and experience of people when evaluating their opinion. Some of the ppl here do not own a mac, and are dissing it. Personally I think this is because they haven't understood what using one for weeks and months actually feels like. And I've found it to be very very nice.

I'd be happy to answer any questions you have in private msgs. This thread will turn into a flame war and I'm not gonna bother reading it
 
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the above post is pretty great. the only thing i would nit-pick is that the hard drive failures relate directly to the hard drive manufacturers, and not apple (they don't build hard drives). unfortunately, hard drives fail all the time, mac and pc. one thing you CANNOT afford to be without is a back up hard drive. i use two backups, so i have three copies of everything always. might sound like overkill, but ask anyone who has lost everything in a failure and they will tell you 3 is not enough!
 
Some of the ppl here do not own a mac, and are dissing it.

they just jealous cuz they don't have one. hehehe

I have a macbook, my sister has a macbook, i have two ipodtouchs, she also has an ipod touch; we also have two aging desktops, that still work without any sort of problems since the beginning. They're just more friendly and are programed to fit to the user nicely, rather than the user adapting to the machine
 
I was using PC's since 1994, building/maintaining them for family and friends, etc. Then I bought my first Macbook Pro in 07 and will never go back to PC's anymore. Not for the hardware but for OS. I'm not saying Apple is a much better system, but I basically got sick of having to maintain a PC, run antivirus software, etc. it just became a pain (and i'm pedantic with that sort of thing, so it was taking up a lot of my time). Oh, and I've *never* experienced a crash on either my old Macbook Pro or my current 27" iMac, both rock solid.
 
YOU SARCY SWINE!!!!
I mean is it a Uni course etc or something privately funded....

ahh man, i didnt even need to use the teeth :D

he is doing a media/film making/photograpghy and i think its just a standard course :)
 
ive decided im getting an imac and an external sound card , thanks for all the feedback guys really appreciated!
cant wait to jump on the logic and ableton band waggon
 
ive decided im getting an imac and an external sound card , thanks for all the feedback guys really appreciated!
cant wait to jump on the logic and ableton band waggon
Is that not a hair removal cream now more commonly known as Veet?............Hope that works out for ya....;)
 
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