Mac vs. PC

yer i got mine from the apple shop with a student discount before i was even a student, just showed em a letter i got from manchester uni sayin they'd made me an unconditional offer and it was all gravy
 
wow. mac by far. just got back into production, got a macbook pro and logic, 4GB of RAM and it screams - mostly because i don't have to run any processor-hungry antivirus software. as far as the "douche" argument, if it means i get:

-unmatched customer support and warranty service
-less downtime from spy-, mal-, whatever-ware
-intuitive interfacing
-idiot-proof backup in a single step
-lower total cost of ownership
-stunning hardware (okay, that's an opinion)

i'm loving being a douche...
 
Macs are expensive but I havent had one problem with my mac since i bought it.
If I'm honest I did have one day where it took a while to start up but thats it!
 
I got converted....
Just bought a Macbook pro last
week.... its a beast... so stable...
really happy with it...
 
@dafo93

the financial issues of switching to mac are not what most people think. when you look at total cost of ownership, macs are lower cost than PCs. that is not to mention apple's service strategy, which is "oh, this is broken? here is a new one." add to that a dual core processor not bogged down by anti-virus software, and you might be productive enough to get a track released sooner! if there is any way to come up with the few hundred extra dollars for a macbook pro (or desktop if that's your flavor) and logic express, i cannot recommend it enough!
 
Macs last aswel, Im running Pro Tools and Reason on an old 2001 G4 with a single tiny 800mhz (!!!) processor with about a gig and a half of RAM, and with years of audio on it, hardly high spec. Most PC's of this spec from around this time I doubt will even still boot up anymore!!

Now Apple have moved over to Intel processors and have been running them for the past few years theres no where near the amount of compatability issues as when they were PowerPC based. And theres the ultimate benefit that the operating system is made by the same people who make the hardware, so they are much more reliable.

Bit more expensive than a PC, maybe, but you wont be constantly repairing and updating every time windows kicks up a fuss over a driver issue or virus, and on the whole the machine will last longer anyway.

I used to be against macs, but learnt the hard way.
 
Can a macbook pro handle audio production?

Running pro-tools + reason and auxiliary stuff like spectrum analyzers?

I might get a dekstop but i think laptops are convenient, im just worried they arent powerful enough.
 
DanDnB said:
Can a macbook pro handle audio production?

Running pro-tools + reason and auxiliary stuff like spectrum analyzers?

I might get a dekstop but i think laptops are convenient, im just worried they arent powerful enough.
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Ive always been more keen on desktops, I think you get more performance for your money. The new Macbooks are all pretty good from what I've seen/heard though.
 
dont know how power hungry pro tools is, im running ableton rewired reason nearly always with some analyzer on. It works on my 2GHz dual core pretty fine. Also take into account that u can freeze tracks to save cpu power

A point for a non prof. producer buying a laptop instead of desktop might be, that u dont have to buy licences for ur software several times for desktop and laptop. Also u have no synchronizing prob. But if u use protools reason analyzer same time 1440 resolution will be a little tight. On the other hand small reason knobs get even smaller on higer res screens, so u have to make compromise. Ableton on WUXGA must be pretty cool, becaue u can magnify the whole GUI.
 
motion audio said:
For production Mac, I've been down both routes and personaly I think windows is more trouble than its worth. But for games, the mac would fall short.
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99% of the free softsynths/VSTs I have aren't available for MAC and never will be.



Gaming... on a Mac... ha, that's an oxymoron.


"-less downtime from spy-, mal-, whatever-ware"

A. Macs are just as susceptible to being infected... don't believe the hype.

B. If you want a real production monster, make it an offline machine and don't worry about wasting cycles on anti-virus software/etc.



I dunno, if you're going to be running Pro Tools then you should probably get Mac. Why anyone uses Pro Tools is beyond me though, lol.... proprietary hardware and 'meh' to use.
 
Protoplasym said:
99% of the free softsynths/VSTs I have aren't available for MAC and never will be.



Gaming... on a Mac... ha, that's an oxymoron.


"-less downtime from spy-, mal-, whatever-ware"

A. Macs are just as susceptible to being infected... don't believe the hype.

B. If you want a real production monster, make it an offline machine and don't worry about wasting cycles on anti-virus software/etc.



I dunno, if you're going to be running Pro Tools then you should probably get Mac. Why anyone uses Pro Tools is beyond me though, lol.... proprietary hardware and 'meh' to use.
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why would you want to game on a mac?

I bought a laptop and a macbook exactly the same time 2 years ago.
the mac still runs very fast, the laptop died after 1 year and now dusnt turn on.

I will never use a windows pc again.
mac ftw
 
@ DanDnB
i have a 13" macbook pro (lowest model) and it runs logic more than fine.

@Protoplasym
OS X is a little more rigid than windows...that aside, somebody has to write a mac virus before you can be infected.
 
@dafo93

i think that looks like a fine production PC, certainly has the right specs. however, my recommendation is still for a mac mini and a cheap monitor/mouse/keyboard - same price if you get the peripherals off ebay. with 64-bit snow leopard, unreal speeds.....
 
XP out performs PC laptops
of the same specs on Macs...

I run both windows and OSX with
no problem what so ever...

there is seriously no argument
when you can run both OS with
no problems on the one powerful
machine...

best of both worlds...
 
PC's have their niche. For instance at work we run UNIX systems with PC's to perform multiphysics simulations on gas turbine aerodynamics, for this a PC is great.

But for music production, my girlfriends Mac is just seamless as hell. I can plug in all my shit, it recognizes everything and lights flicker on which makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

I know how to use a computer, I can 'setup' my shit on a PC. But when i come home i like to not have to deal with computers since i deal with them at work. A mac is sorta a real relaxed computer, sorta like the computer smoked a lotta weed.

Whereas a PC is like a meth addict, really fidgity. I dunno...
 
msmith222 said:
@dafo93

the financial issues of switching to mac are not what most people think. when you look at total cost of ownership, macs are lower cost than PCs. that is not to mention apple's service strategy, which is "oh, this is broken? here is a new one." add to that a dual core processor not bogged down by anti-virus software, and you might be productive enough to get a track released sooner! if there is any way to come up with the few hundred extra dollars for a macbook pro (or desktop if that's your flavor) and logic express, i cannot recommend it enough!
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Macs have done well to keep up the image of "Better media production"... Both PC's and Macs chipsets are getting a hel of a lot more similar, and the reason why people used to say Macs were better for it, was because Media editing programmes scripted their programmes for Macs, but pretty much everything in Mac is made able and updated for PC's [more so in film and cinema]

Also, please stop with this "bogged down in anti-virus software." If your seriouse about production, your PC won't be slow enough to feel any speed reduction from anti-virus, any up to date home PC shouldn't. People saying "stick 4gb in RAM in a mac and it's incredible" should think about what they're saying too. Ever tried putting 4gb of a RAM with a quadcore in a PC and water cooled it?

Personally I don't use anti-virus software on my PC, because at the end of the day, you've got to be retarded to get a PC virus, it's either a pirated Keygen then you think is gonna give you Office for free, or something else hilariously suspicious.

If you want to look at a big white blob, and think, "this is what producers use lol" go for it. But if you want to have a good machine you can upgrade easily, and have equal if not more free CPU, I'd go PC.

also, getting things for MACs is a pain in the arse.
 
Once you've had a Mac you'll never go back.
Get a Mac Book Pro top spec.
A bit extra cash but worth it.
I've used both and teach using both.
PC can't handle the randle.
 
Theres always going to be this argument, PC users will always want PC's, and mac users will always argue.

I work on a mac because I find it much easier for what I'm doing, the idea of a virus doesnt bother me as I keep my machine well clear of an internet connection, games dont bother me as I've got an Xbox for that, free plugins designed only for windows I'm not too fussed about because in my own experience theyre usualy free for a reason.

Plus my PC having an epi and wasting my morning of drum tracking pissed me off a great deal, so from then on I've used macs and I'm yet to have a problem. (Not to say all pc's are unreliable, there are good ones about)

What it comes down to is what you like using, dont get a mac because "so and so's got one", get whatever you like working on. A good tune is a good tune, whether its been made on an 8core Mac running Logic or in Fruity Loops on an old laptop held together with selotape.
 
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