Hi all, i'm new to this forum so let me first introduce myself briefly. I'm 16 years old and i started producing liquid about 3-4 months ago. I'm using ableton live 8 for Mac and i really got to know the program very well in the last months. I learned how to make a nice drum beat, how to EQ things out properly etc etc. I can also make the typical liquid sound with the detuned squares with an LFO on the LP to make it wobble but i really would like to make a sound similar to the ones you hear in these songs: Netsky : Lost in This World http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svW2KL-9KQI Netsky : Memory Lane http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG7cRDcPY3k Fred V & Grafix : One of These Days http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ulEULEMpUw I am talking about all the kinds off bass, because i have to improve everything. I know the basics i think but i need to take it to another level to actually get into the real production because a solo dnb beat sounds so lonely! I was also wondering wether there are tutorials out there that get into detail with the whole liquid dnb production... There is a forum post on the Sonic Academy forums that has the second most amount of response but somehow SA ignores this and keeps on digging in that Techno/house branch of the music. All Help is welcome! Cheers!