Layering bass

[Headspace1]

Im wondering if anyone can help me, ive made a bass that im happy with wel almost it just needs beefed up
anyone know of any tutorials or know a bit about it?
i use massive for my basses and cubase for production

peace

 

[sook]

distort eq filter modulate.....
process the shit outa that sound....
the more the better....

but listen to the sample....
reference it with another tune.....
trust your ears if your have decent
monitors and a decently treated room....
otherwise spectrum analyzers help....
what is it lacking.... ?
treat the sample.....

try the cubase over drive (its fat!!)....
try using send effects to boost RMS....
sending to a little reverb is good if the
sound is sounding to dry....
group the layers and compress to 'glue'
the layers together.....
use some eqs to colour the sound....
(my favs are Api 560 and SSL series Eq
also the URS pultec emulation has been getting
a bit of use again of late...)
the use transparent sounding EQs (eg
sony oxford EQ) for surgical eq-ing
to keep your sound under control.....
use different layers treated differently
to to concentrate of differnt tonal aspect
of the sound in different layers and bring them
out accordingly.... (filter distort eq modulate etc)

highpass your bass around 30hz gets rid of a lot of
energy down way to low that is useless...
give you more headroom....
you bass should have a lot of weight in the |
sub around 50hz then a lot of weight coming
through one octave above this around 100hz...
that boomy muddy sound you may get is probably
coming in around 400 - 500hz cutting this a little
can tighten up your bass....
but use your ears.... every sound is going to
have different formants (groupings of harmonics)
so processing every sound should be different....
there is no set technique is the end it all
boils down to how it sounds... there are a
1000 different paths to travel all of which
lead to the same place....
bone crunching full spectrum dance music....

could really go on for ever but more than anything ever....

use your ears....!!!

 

[JAGZ]

sorry i didnt quite get that could you say it again

 

[Ketz]

if ur lookin to layer ur basses sometimes is best to get as much texture in there thru ur synth first (detune, filters etc etc), try resampling if that works for you, so basically export maybe a sustanied C note of the bass u make in massive, import this into a sampler and continue processing from there - run some filters thru it, lfos etc etc

 

[logikz]

sorry i didnt quite get that could you say it again

 

[Dan M]

get camel phat.......its pretty good

 

[Permutated]

I usually just bus out to 3 separate channels, one for low end, one for mids and one for highs. I use autofiltering on the midrange with a medium resonance, and a ring shifter for smoothing. Obviously EQ that bitch too.

For the high end I use EQ, compression and High Pass Filtering that's automated, usually chorus on that layer (and sometimes Tube compression).

The low end is always Low Pass Filtered first, sometimes gated but not always, throw a vintage warmer on there with the midrange dead and 200hz dead.

Bus all 3 of your layers to a new track together, and auto filter that shit.

 

[Ketz]

yeah man takin the same bass sound and putting an automated hipass filter on one layer can give it some nice timbre / movement on the high end

 

[Headspace1]

cheers for the tips
al give them all a shot after ive installed everything again, got a shity virus that totaly fucked up my pc had to re install windows

 

[djdaveb]

this is how i do it! i'll try and make a mook up editor and key in lol

sub bass layer key ________
front bass layer key ____
back bass layer key **** ____

when i key in a sub on the editor deppending how long i key for i'll add another bass layer and key it in on the front of the sub bass and pitch it up put some decay and curve on it to warp it into the sub bass, after ill take another synth and key it in the last part of the sub key like above and attack & decay detune to fit the rest of the bassline to sound as all one bass key, then after just touch it up and adjust the sound.. i.e eq

hope you understood that lol

 

[gcurt1s]

distort eq filter modulate.....
process the shit outa that sound....
the more the better....

but listen to the sample....
reference it with another tune.....
trust your ears if your have decent
monitors and a decently treated room....
otherwise spectrum analyzers help....
what is it lacking.... ?
treat the sample.....

try the cubase over drive (its fat!!)....
try using send effects to boost RMS....
sending to a little reverb is good if the
sound is sounding to dry....
group the layers and compress to 'glue'
the layers together.....
use some eqs to colour the sound....
(my favs are Api 560 and SSL series Eq
also the URS pultec emulation has been getting
a bit of use again of late...)
the use transparent sounding EQs (eg
sony oxford EQ) for surgical eq-ing
to keep your sound under control.....
use different layers treated differently
to to concentrate of differnt tonal aspect
of the sound in different layers and bring them
out accordingly.... (filter distort eq modulate etc)

highpass your bass around 30hz gets rid of a lot of
energy down way to low that is useless...
give you more headroom....
you bass should have a lot of weight in the |
sub around 50hz then a lot of weight coming
through one octave above this around 100hz...
that boomy muddy sound you may get is probably
coming in around 400 - 500hz cutting this a little
can tighten up your bass....
but use your ears.... every sound is going to
have different formants (groupings of harmonics)
so processing every sound should be different....
there is no set technique is the end it all
boils down to how it sounds... there are a
1000 different paths to travel all of which
lead to the same place....
bone crunching full spectrum dance music....

could really go on for ever but more than anything ever....

use your ears....!!!

nice!!