kicks and snares

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  1. kieran t

    kieran t Member

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    i have not long been producing.
    i know my way around cubase pretty well now, i watched afew of them sub focus and chase and status clips on youtube.
    the problem is i cannot get by kicks sounding punchy at all the snare aint to bad but could be better.
    i didnt wanna layer them as the videos i watch advised only to use single kicks really. i wanna achive a good thumpin punch!!!
    has anyone got a few tips on what i could do to make them better.
    apreciated
     
  2. subprime

    subprime Dysjoint

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    You can layer...compress, eq, sidechain,.....um...use a better sample.

    Keep trying different things man.
     
  3. TongueFlap

    TongueFlap Flappin'

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    I normally layer 3 kicks and layer about 4 snares, but this is just my way of working.
    I look for a low one, a puncy one and a snappy weighty one. eq them a bit and keep building till im happy with it.
     
  4. groelle

    groelle Well-Known Member

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    with that beeing the main point i guess ...
     
  5. GiDriK

    GiDriK Lost in jungle

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    Fail about it is that its not a MUST to do thing, everyone does their think how they want, i personally use 1 to 3 kicks, its all about the quality of the samples, about ur skill in EQ and Compression.
     
  6. CULTURE_BOY

    CULTURE_BOY HMMM

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    first and formost, use good quality samples from the off cos " ya cant polish a turd "
     
  7. DanDnB

    DanDnB Bass and Drums

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    Technically you can, I saw it on mythbusters.

    :D
     
  8. CULTURE_BOY

    CULTURE_BOY HMMM

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    LOL seen that too ha ha
     
  9. RevTech

    RevTech Butthole=output transduce

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    Use a maximum of 3 only!!!!

    mess about with the pitches and EQ them separately too.

    I could say much more but I could also say. SEARCH THE FORUM
     
  10. safety

    safety double safety

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    if you don't want to layer, then your shit out of luck, because layers are big this season. try a black v neck jumper over a black t shirt for that 'i don't give a fuck look'
     
  11. druu

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    Using more than one kick will phase cancel the other if you don't know what you're doing. One kick with some careful eqing is all that's required and find the right sample.
     
  12. TongueFlap

    TongueFlap Flappin'

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    this is true.. but ur kicks need to be almost identical in waveform for them to do this
     
  13. kama

    kama benkama.net

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    For a powerful snare, put a kick underneath it. For an all-encompassing huge kick, layer a snare under it.
     
  14. msmith222

    msmith222 redbeard

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    kama has a clever one there...gonna try that myself.
     
  15. kama

    kama benkama.net

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    There's also been a lot of talk of boosting 200Hz by a decibel or two to bring out that resonant thud of a snare. Dont overdo it tho.

    I've found that having your snare at the same frequency range than the kick's harmonics can create a good balance between the two. ie., kick peaking at 90Hz -> snare boost to 180Hz.
     
  16. kama

    kama benkama.net

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    hot tip #3: Layer a very short decay sine or square (or any other melodic oscillator for that matter) to make your drum hits go in tune with other material. If you dont have any melodic elements, try C for kick and G for snare, also known as the Perfect Fifth interval.
     
  17. krease

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    the vengeance snares are all eq'd to perfection, some big snares in the pack.

    but as for kicks, took me ages to find decent kicks, again the vengeance sample cd's prevail.....
     
  18. DanDnB

    DanDnB Bass and Drums

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    Kama wins.
     
  19. RevTech

    RevTech Butthole=output transduce

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    Yes you are! :not_worth

    Great tips man, yet again!
     
  20. groelle

    groelle Well-Known Member

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    everyone talks about that packs, and ive never came across them. where could i find them?! :confused:

    and thanks kama, some good tips1! :)