Hi guys. Maybe this kind of thread is already here. if it is. delete it. i started up with listening jungle and DnB just nearly 3 years ago. i started to be intersted in this scene in the end of 2006. I am maniac to reading and knowing everything about i am interested in, and jungle and DnB was not exception i started as listener with a little nu skool stuff but i i honestly fell in love with this style with oldskool stuff. there was stuff like. LTJ bukem,Bizzy B, Goldie, Aphrodite, kemistry and storm, congo natty, shy FX, 4hero, Ed rush n´optical, matrix,the konflict,bad company, and others... and now after years i am still looking for old/older prudction. back in 2006 as as newbie to jungle, i was listenig to nu skool DnB and old skool jungle and i compared them. and i already knew that time, that jungle is no more about what it used to be about. i kind of feel the beauty of these beatz is dying drasticly fast. i just wonder how can nowdays well known producers produce such a shit?? for exmaple i also like lot of liquid or glitch tracks. but you have to know how to make it without killing the feeling of Dnb genre. i just fuckin hate craps like danny byrd, pendulum new stuff(it is not even DnB!!) or subfocus... do you people consider this as true style in legacy of rave culture?? cause i think this is sound for roundabouts and it is totally loved by the young and dumb people which most of them listen it casue now it is IN. i vommit over nowdays parties... I am slovakian, so i saw the difference on the parties in my country. where you had great peple to talk and have fun with, and especially true FANS of this style. nowdays?? 14 year old are allowed to visit these parties and sorry, two things:14 year old should not even know what is XTC and so definitely not take it!!! yeah yeah many discussions about drug controverison of rave/eletronic events. and see a kid overdosed shivering on the floor is not a nice look. and i believe it is not slovakia´s problem only the second thing: this is not about jungle anymore. this will not raise new generation of ravers, but new wave of teen junkies. just few of these kids will care about the true core ot the scene. the rest will not, but the drug abusse will stay. i personally took that shit in my mouth for first time pherhaps one year ago. just to try it. thw whole scene is turnin into something discusting. and wil die in few years. what a shame!!! junglists will turn into breakcore fans maybe. and that si how the rave might survive in underground. jungle stayed in the nineties that why it will never be that comercial as drum n bass. the beuty of drum n bass opposite jungle was, that DnB is able to take influence from all music in the world. jungle was not that flexible but it was way better in beat structure. i tryed to describe ma feelings about nowdays DnB as my english skills allows me. so take it as it is. gimme your minds and opinions about what a i tryed to write about in these few lines.