Is Kanye West redeeming himself?

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New tune produced by Pete Rock, Flying Lotus, Madlib, MF Doom all rumoured to be producing his new album. What you think?



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Actually, sweet Jesus what the fuck is this all about?

 
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Say what you like about Kanye....geezer is talented behind the boards and as a prodcuer on the mic, is better than most.

808's and Heartbreak was singy, self indulgent nonsense but his first 3 albums are incredible and some of his beats for other people....well, theres just too many good ones to mention

I dont think he needs to redeem himself by working with people like Pete Rock & MF Doom. Yeah he's a fucking plank most of the time but i dont think he needs to redeem himself to anyone by pandering to the underground or whatever
 
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always liked his songs, he can work with whoever usually his songs come out great. This "Good music fridays" are a bit shit to me but his album and the songs he made with other ppl are great, haters can hate idc. Hope he still keeps making music :)
 

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Okay hes not the best Rapper in the world.
But some of the lyrics in his older tunes are decent.
He is a cock and does seem to have a high opinion of himself, but the guy is talented.

No one on here can deny it.










Unless they are a narrowminded jump up mc larry badboy b
 

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Say what you like about Kanye....geezer is talented behind the boards and as a prodcuer on the mic, is better than most.

808's and Heartbreak was singy, self indulgent nonsense but his first 3 albums are incredible and some of his beats for other people....well, theres just too many good ones to mention

I dont think he needs to redeem himself by working with people like Pete Rock & MF Doom. Yeah he's a fucking plank most of the time but i dont think he needs to redeem himself to anyone by pandering to the underground or whatever
Agree with all that.

Although I'm not his biggest fan as an MC. He's decent enough though.

But yeh, all he has to do is return to what he started with. I'm never going to complain about hearing new pete rock and madlib beats though.

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Okay hes not the best Rapper in the world.
But some of the lyrics in his older tunes are decent.
He is a cock and does seem to have a high opinion of himself, but the guy is talented.

No one on here can deny it.


Unless they are a narrowminded jump up mc larry badboy b
I dunno, him rapping over his quality beats was just decent enough, more his flow really.

But I don't think he's all that lyrical.

"Didn't have a car so he called his daughter a-lexus". I mean come on, that's awful.
 

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i agree with everything said in thread. kanyes first album was a great upbeat pop rap thing with some moments of real genius. everything hes done since has been on a jah rule/maria carey level of credibility, both text and song writing wise, guess why hes left it to other people to do it for him now. those bits sound good actually, didnt even notice kanye on there.
with his mad tantrum diva liberache type persona making him a world class clown on top of everything.
bit like the wu tangs return, soon as they stopped using their own shitty wu tang producers and got some real heavy weight names in there (specially ghosts fishscale era albums) they were back for good.
 

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Karl, your last sentence?

I mean, they did benefit from it a bit (also lost that sound which made them the Wu though), but I'd hardly call the RZA shitty.

Leave and never come back. What's wrong with you Korf???
 

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compared to the sheer amount of albums they put out, their output has been steady for as far back as i can remember, and the amounts of tunes that are on there that are
a.) made by rza
b.) actually decent
are scarce, sometimes to the point of being offensive,

but most importantly
c.) made by rza and actually decent, are so few and far between that on a wu album, no, on a stack of wu albums, lets say all of them from 10 years back to now
there is so very little to support that they are even the same rap group that did all those trend setting classic poineering master pieces back the day.

because he is not a good producer. he used to be good, made around 6 or 7 classic albums in the 90s,
but when he changed from samples to synths (forever album was the first time we heard this sound from him) he fell off so hard and hes never made up for it,
never once has he lived up to what was expected of him. some songs are so fucking terrible (method mans 'deadly melody pt1 and 2' and 'the rhumba' immediately springs to mind
that i cant for life of me what record label thought it would be a good idea to release it, let alone make videos for them.
rza occasionaly writes a good song and even then, barely. its mostly that it resembles his early work so you like it as a kind of tip of the hat to that era in hip hop.
like 'be careful (click click)' or whats it called. for a wu tang song its quite likable and it has all the ingredients, all the members are rappin on the song, its the classic wu drum beat (DUN DUN SMACK DUN DUN SMACK DUN DUN SMACK) and shaolin samples etc. but if you listen to the tune its not very well arranged at all, and it brings explotation to mind, hes exploiting the fans by doing that.
 
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Ah ok, I thought you meant from when they switched from their early gritty sound.

I get you now Korf.

I agree with you. Last lot of Wu tang albums (solo or group) that he solely or mostly produced were a bit shit.

But then again, it's not only been the production side. For the most part, they all fell off.

They put out a lot of solid stuff, too much.
 

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I dunno, him rapping over his quality beats was just decent enough, more his flow really.

But I don't think he's all that lyrical.

"Didn't have a car so he called his daughter a-lexus". I mean come on, that's awful.
His verse on This Way with Dilated Peoples was fucking quality
 
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