How to get a 'growling' bass?????

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  1. Dj_Kritikool

    Dj_Kritikool Member

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    growling is the only was i could describe it

    similar to the noise on overfiend - original sin
    or roni size - friends

    any 1 help with this???

    would help me out alot

    thanks
     
  2. sook

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    synthesis + distortion + mod + eq + compression + resample...
    in any order or combination.. then repeat... again and again...
     
  3. TongueFlap

    TongueFlap Flappin'

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    rawr? pop an audio clip up
     
  4. RevTech

    RevTech Butthole=output transduce

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    Focus on the "o" in growl. Get that sound with 3 saw waves, 2 of them an octave off the first. Use distortion in the beginning a bit of the effects chain then at the end. Split you sound and keep the low frequencies pretty clean. Then focus on the "gr" and "wl". this could be done with a filter attack or something similar.

    there is much more to write, but I'm going to have a sandwich
     
  5. Busdriver

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    We want moarrrr!
    Evil sandwich hit again.
    Thx mate
     
  6. DanDnB

    DanDnB Bass and Drums

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    3 oscillators like everyone is saying. Choose yoru waveforms, most of the time i like to use squares because they sound more electronic.

    detune them slightly, distort, unison, compress if needed, filter out what you dont like, bounce and repeat.

    Add an LFO with a small amount of gain for a slight wobble. With this, add a modulation envelope on either the filter or the phases of the oscillators, this will give it some personality.

    If you want to really get interesting, boost your portamento, when you go from note to note it will swing and sound demonic.

    Enjoy.
     
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  7. Dj_Kritikool

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    thats great, cheerz people,

    im using logic and ive also installed Komplete 5 so ive got a range of synths to work with but to get this type of bass should i use any particular 1?
     
  8. opcode11011

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    Start with the brutal electro patch in massive, every other fucker seems to :D
     
  9. sook

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    why 3... why not 7 or 1... its makes no difference
    really... the midlines in my tune end of time on
    rottun recs were made with a single osc reaktor
    synth "oki computer 2.1" in which you can mod a
    single waveform across a wave table..

    the tonality you are all talking about
    comes more from processing post synthesis more
    than anything...
     
  10. RevTech

    RevTech Butthole=output transduce

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    Alright.

    so I use z3ta+ so what I do is the higher in octave wave gets a bit highpassed and the lower gets low passed a bit. The higher gets self synced a bit too.

    My effects follow, and this is personal preference.

    Tube amp a bit on warm setting, EQ out the bad freq. by shortening the bandwidth and searching for bad signals, and to boost the good freqencies. then chorus a bit, then phaser, and tube amp on distortion setting. Lastly, compression that has a bit of a lighter setting.

    I personally don't use reverb because I don't like it much on a reece.

    Then I resample at a good quality. I then apply sweeping bandpass filters on a low setting so it wont effect the sound much, then a highpass on a different time setting and a low pass n a lower speed setting. I also add some effects at this point. I resample again and put it into dblue - glitch and mess about.

    I may add a sub bass under it at this point
     
  11. DanDnB

    DanDnB Bass and Drums

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    Well 3 has worked for me. That's why I mention it as opposed to 1. I don't have the same post synthesis you do to make those sounds, so I need to layer synthesis and distortion. That's just how it falls out, in my case.
     
  12. sook

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    3 will work... so will 4.. or 2... or 1... or a million
    oscillators.. it doesnt matter... and layering
    and distortion are definitely post synthesis techniques...
     
  13. Dj Methodist

    Dj Methodist soundcloud.com/methodist

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    this.
    i then tend to make two copies of the same sound high passing one and low passing the other.
    the high pass will give that top end growl.

    or use the exiciter-but not too much!
     
  14. RevTech

    RevTech Butthole=output transduce

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    never understood what an exicter does o_O
     
  15. Tripz

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    if your using massive try the scream filter that gives that growl to most sounds you try it with. Jus link up lfo 5 with the cutoff and then mess around with the scream and resonance nobs.
     
  16. Mattix

    Mattix Sub Focus anyone?

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    Haha. Are there any other words you can make into sounds? How would you make the name "ronald"? :teeth:
     
  17. RevTech

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    Oh yeah man.

    Get a speech synthesizer and run it thru a talk box or vocoder :p
     
  18. Josh G

    Josh G New Member

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    Like Peter Frampton..."Dooo Youuuu Feeeeel Theeee Wayyyy I Feeel??? Dooooo Youuuu Feeeeeel Allright? Alright? Alright? Alright?"
     
  19. DanDnB

    DanDnB Bass and Drums

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    Listen to the song Vendetta by Optical.

    The Bassline speaks.
     
  20. RevTech

    RevTech Butthole=output transduce

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    My bassline talks too. I have conversations with it and ask it questions sometimes.