How long have you been producing and how far have you progressed?

Roughly about 3-4years but life seems to be gettin in the way of my progression, i end up trying out the skills ive picked up with every tune i make an then merge the bits i like to make a frankenstien tune of good parts (this is just with dnb) or it just all flows out in one go an i have a loop i do as much as i think i can do to an fruity will no longer handle an intro or breakdown so im stuck with a half decent loop an no 'overall' progress. i have improved alot since i started but havent got much i can show for it. i prefer colabs with the dexcell crew as we have a powerful pc an alot of patience an things seem to get done wen we feed off each other.

speakin of which recently we had a bright spark to all get down the studio (me dave, culprate n polygon) an its true wat they say too many cooks in the kitchen an all that, as we made a disgusting loop got beaten by a hi hat (as in we couldnt process or find the right one lol) an then instead fucked about witha vocoder an got some ridiculously crazy noises, close to transformers shit which was alrite just a sick tune would of been a much better waste of time lol

Anyway the way im doing it now is shit all i do is open up a fresh project an learn an if i like the way things are goin export shit an save cpu an attempt to continue till i get lost or bored an then restart the cycle.

For any1 thats interested ill be updating my myspace soon with the new loops i have made as i do like the style im going for atm just havent finished everything

rant over/

Safe an happy producing all :2thumbs:
 
one is for sure, if u ve never produced, composed, played instrument on ur own/in a band before and then start to produce electronic music, especially dnb, u have chosen the stoniest most complicated way to start making music possible. Period. Anyone doesnt aggree with this?

As a dnb bedroom producer u have so much to learn about correct mixdown, electronic sound design, fx use, drum programming, its trial and error month over month, no way around. Besides the competition is pretty big.

So im really glad i had some pre knowledge of above mentioned and was wise enough not to try to instantly pull out smashing dnb tracks with hypercomplex drums and orientated more on trance/techno.

I would nobody recommend without alot pre knowledge to start immediatley with dnb and electronic music at all. U end in pure frustration and self doubt. Everyone thinks producing music is fun, but making high standard dnb tracks obviously is a fulltime job. If u have all this skills and experience, then it probably gets fun

After this sad words hope this gladdens u :D
 
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one is for sure, if u ve never produced, composed, played instrument on ur own/in a band before and then start to produce electronic music, especially dnb, u have chosen the stoniest most complicated way to start making music possible. Period. Anyone doesnt aggree with this?

As a dnb bedroom producer u have so much to learn about correct mixdown, electronic sound design, fx use, drum programming, its trial and error month over month, no way around. Besides the competition is pretty big.

So im really glad i had some pre knowledge of above mentioned and was wise enough not to try to instantly pull out smashing dnb tracks with hypercomplex drums and orientated more on trance/techno.

I would nobody recommend without alot pre knowledge to start immediatley with dnb and electronic music at all. U end in pure frustration and self doubt. Everyone thinks producing music is fun, but making high standard dnb tracks obviously is a fulltime job. If u have all this skills and experience, then it probably gets fun

After this sad words hope this gladdens u :D
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i kindov agree with this the only thing swaying me in debating it is that with todays technology an shit its quite easy for some1 with no musical knowledge to put together a few presets an samples from loop packs to make a tune (granted it will be quite noticable but still very possible to do it this way)
 
I have been a musician since i was 9 years old. I started by playing trumpet and later progressed onto piano, guitar and drums.

By the age of 18 i started to learn to DJ this progressed onto writing beats after i realised you had to be signed and have vinyl releases to get gigs :)

Been producing for about 4 years now and im pretty happy with what Litta and myself have accomplished. 3 vinyls out atm, one of which is on Obscene which was one of my personal targets. 3 more to come and support from the right people.

Cant complain
 
my first taste of dnb was in '99 purely as a raver, started learning how to mix and bought my own decks by 2000

i started producing in late 2000 with a demo of FL and then Reason, messed about on and off for 2 years never took it seriously more of a hobby :) gave up soon thereafter due to work stresses and booze lol

restarted again in late 2007 and been on it hard since, had my first release in Feb this year and have had several since (and a few forthcoming) just about to sign my first vinyl deal and had my first couple plays on the BBC Asian Network recently so looks like all the hard work is finally starting to pay off

i think its defo about perseverence, if u want it that bad u will sit there and learn as much as u can, there is a wealth of info on the internet about producing nowadays so i think its a lot easier than it was like 10 yrs ago but the key is determination :D
 
Been producing for about 7/8 months-ish, and its fuckin' hard work, i've been DJ'in for over 13 years and i thought the transition from mixin' to production would be an easy one.

I was wrong.

As for how far iv'e come in them 7 months, id say loadz.

Just like someone else mentioned in one of there threads, listen to some of the first tunes you ever made, then listen to your latest stuff and it shows....

I still really want to try and make it as a producer and get signed an all that and i know iv'e got many many years to go, but im more than happy to make my own tunes, get em cut and play them in sets. Id settle for just that.

You never know, maybe someone will hear one of my tunes being played in my set and it will all go from there !!!

Heres a section from Davide Carbone from Loopmasters website talking about getting you tunes signed etc...

The first and most obvious point is if your tunes aren't up to current standards then no label will sign them. So it's very important not to hassle producers and labels just because you've completed your first track. If a label has several average tunes submitted to them by one artist over a period of time then they are unlikely to listen to your material again. So don't blow any opportunity until you are sure that your music is marketable. This is where friends, dj's and clubs come in handy.

Listening to your music on a club sound system will give you a very good indication of quality, particularly if you can reference it against your favourite producers music. Getting opinions from dj's and friends will also help. The two most important things to remember are: are my tunes marketable and is the production up to a high standard? There is no point giving a hard tune to a label, which specialises in liquid. If a label can't sell your music then they won't be interested - no matter how good your tune is.

Secondly these days it is very important to have a high production standard. How does your tune sound next to your favourite producers tracks? If it pales in comparison then it's time to go back to the drawing board. Start off by giving your tracks to dj's that are not so established, they are most likely to give you honest feedback. This is the period of time where you should be honing your skills in the studio. Realistically it takes five years to learn the art of production, even if you are a musical genius.

When you are confident that your tunes are of a releasable standard then it is time to do some networking. Today the most effective way of having a tune signed is by AIM. Every producer and record label has an AIM address, the easiest way of finding these addresses is by asking or emailing the label. The trick is not to hassle anybody, this is a big turn off. If you submit your track and somebody likes it, they will contact you. So don't bother contacting them to ask for feedback. If you don't have any contacts then visiting dj's when they perform is the best way to start. Drop off a CD of your material either before or after the dj has played his set. You don't need to say anything, just hand over your CD and make sure it has your contact details. Don't be discouraged if you don't hear anything back. Dj's regularly cut tracks and put them in their set without telling the artists. The trick here is to get your name out there and more importantly to have it associated with quality material. If you material is good enough and you make an effort to establish a network of contacts, it will only be a matter of time before you are negotiating your advance.
 
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I started playing with FL like when i was 15ish or w.e but never really did anything with it until about last year around my bday and then posted some dnb things here shortly after and i checked the post n it said 06/05/09 so from then until now i think i've progressed pretty well as i'm using just reason now n things are starting to shape up.
 
I started since I was 6, but that was beginner as shit. So producing my own loops since about 2 years.
 
Nice quote from david, rippa, cheers for that. Interesting that he says 5 years even for a musical genius of which I am not!

I guess I am just being impatient and just need to get my head down. I think one of the problems of which I didnt really mention before is that I am now 36 and it worries me that when and if I ever do start getting tunes played out I will be too old or have family, kids etc and I won't be able to go out and hear them lol!

I have uploaded some tunes to soundcloud, dont think you have to be a member to listen. The top 3 are a few I have had liying around for weeks, any feedback on the would be brilliant, even if you hate it just a few suggestions or tips on my production would mean the world to me! Cheers guys....

http://soundcloud.com/ian_id
 
I think people expect the trends to change and that electronic music will fade away like other genres in the past, but I think recent history says that's not going to happen. The scene is going now for 20 years and some of us older ones remember the most of it (I'm showing my age too). I think like hip hop and rock which people said would be a fad but are still strong, electronic music here to stay so there's no reason to worry about getting older as long as you are in touch with what's fresh. I can't believe it when I see so many people on here from all over the world, estonia, australia, canada, usa etc etc the scene is healthy, I don't think there's any need to hit the panic button as if time is running out. I think getting older and loosing touch with the music of the yooof isn't as important anymore as the internet will perpetuate things in a way we haven't seen before. If the mainstream media are catering to the latest fads, there will be always be a community online you can turn to find like minded people.
 
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the-rippa said:
Today the most effective way of having a tune signed is by AIM. Every producer and record label has an AIM address, the easiest way of finding these addresses is by asking or emailing the label.
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Is this for real? Do people really use things instant messaging to send tracks? I would have thought something like myspace, soundcloud etc would be much more used. I never really use instant messengers apart from in work. I've seen posts on here about people trying to build up AIM addresses but never really took it seriously.
 
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Is this for real? Do people really use things instant messaging to send tracks? I would have thought something like myspace, soundcloud etc would be much more used. I never really use instant messengers apart from in work. I've seen posts on here about people trying to build up AIM addresses but never really took it seriously.
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Well u should take it seriously. This is the only most usefull way nowadays rly.
 
So what's the idea, you add a record label to your aim list, and send files to them out of the blue? Or is it more about who you know, building up a list of contacts you've got in with?
 
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So what's the idea, you add a record label to your aim list, and send files to them out of the blue? Or is it more about who you know, building up a list of contacts you've got in with?
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Yea, you add a lable and send the track, labels usually have auto-accept of files turned on so they dont have to be at the computer to accept the file.. all the tracks go like in one folder. If they like it they write u back. Be sure to lable the track properly and write ur ain address in the trackname.

Sure you can try to talk to them but 90% of time they are "not at the computer right now".
 
not much man, i got into writing music on a tracker in 98-99 and by now i can create the sound i want out of almost anything which is cool on one hand but pretty unpredictable and tedious on the other. ive written some good songs, but since pretty much feb this year ive had computer problems which really sucked the inspiration out of me so im never satisfied with what it sounds like so i havent really written a tune in pretty much a year. i think anyway.
 
yes, basically with tracking you only use samples. Newer trackers have the option to synthesize also, like Renoise for example.

Same with me, started with a dos based tracker in 1999. Been on and off, maybe taking 4 months off at most. Recently started doing it seriously and sending out tunes to labels, maybe due to confidence in my technical skills. It's just starting to pay off, "in talks" about my 2nd release now.
 
a geezer from blackpool i know makes speedcore/hardcore/industrial on something like that, can never remember the name of the program. his tunes are fuckin brilliant. i've got a live p.a he did about 6 years ago. it rocks. still listen to it all the time.

did zinc not make super sharp shooter on sommat like that??
 
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