How do you come up with an interesting/catchy melody?

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  1. kuthoerrr89

    kuthoerrr89 Member

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    Well, probably alot of people are struggling with creating a good melody of synths and whatnot. So am i. It's probably one of my weakness points.

    How do you guys come up with something good? Do you use scales or just come up with something that sounds good etc?

    My melodies are usually 4 notes and then I sort of stretch it over a song but I wanna make some solid stuff. Almost symphony-like!

    I'm interested to hear how you guys come up with stuff.
     
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    BLoodstaiN` Member

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    I have a few standard melody's which i use a lot, but i kinda mess them up so i get something totally different
     
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    ARTFX www.artfx-studios.com

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    I use all kinds of things like scales, picking a root key for your entire tune, chord progressions, arpeggios and more!
     
  4. kuthoerrr89

    kuthoerrr89 Member

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    Yeah i'm also a big fan of using arpeggios, damn I gotta learn some basic music scales then.

    I do use a guitar to make remixes of songs tho
     
  5. Rubs90

    Rubs90 KeyControl

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    Your best plan here would be to sample, nothing beats a well places sample layered with some melodic synths.. Of course, to each it's own though
     
  6. elmaruk

    elmaruk slannndaaaaaaar

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    I like to sample stuff. Reason for that is cuz i find my best stuff comes out when i base a melody around sample. Also for any track i make the melody is always evolving as i go along, for example. Ill make a 16bar phrase of some atmospheres and just change around a couple of samples and BANG, sounds fresh.

    or just somthing i've thought up.
     
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  7. duttymonster

    duttymonster deep in the jungle

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    have you got a midi keyboard? if not, this will help - notation straight to sequencer really hampers ya flow.
     
  8. elmaruk

    elmaruk slannndaaaaaaar

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    I second that! using a keyboard really makes a diffrence just wish i didn't buy a frickin half sized keyboard :p

    Another thing i do sometimes (partly because of the size of my keyboard) i change the pitch up or down a few semitones on the vst, made some good to bad melodys that way.
     
  9. kuthoerrr89

    kuthoerrr89 Member

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    Yeah I got a midi keyboard (also a laptop sized one with 25 keys) and yeah i also use pitch changing, but i guess some piano lessons would be handy.

    i guess it's back to trial and error melody-wise for me!

    btw is Soundcloud down or having maintence atm? I can't even get to my dashboard
     
  10. elmaruk

    elmaruk slannndaaaaaaar

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    mine seems fine but this is an hour later :p
     
  11. duttymonster

    duttymonster deep in the jungle

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    maybe having a reference for scales would help? there was one posted in production recently.

    i dunno - i can always seem to hit a few chords by trial and error - i did have piano lessons as a kid though, so maybe some of it stuck?

    there will be nuff little helpful tutorials on youtube innit.
     
  12. Nautilus

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    either I get an idea in my head while in the shower, or just freestyle til I hit something.
     
  13. CH3SH

    CH3SH CH3SH - Naphalm Audio

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    I use alot of drums at a fast sequence
    So i find that the drum accents actually compliment the bass toward another direction,
    So changing kits is a basic principal lol
    Otherwise i just use one note thats all
    And let filtering and layering of everything else alter the melody
    Almost as if the melody is being assumed by your ears ;)
     
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  14. msmith222

    msmith222 redbeard

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    i really like my "complete idiot's guide to music theory" book - best studio money spent yet, i think.

    imo, you don't always need a great melody. if you have a really good bassline (thick, lots of movement/automation), i think you can get away with a simpler melody. but if your bass is really simple, you are gonna need that sick hook.
     
  15. EvezDroppin

    EvezDroppin how to change name,......

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    plug away until it sounds good, but since i started making dancefloor and minimal the melody is less important more about ur bass
     
  16. DJ Wizz

    DJ Wizz Bless, Union, Force FM

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    taking some time to learn music theory itself can be tedious. my advice would be teach yourself (or buy lessons if you get into it and enjoy it) how to play an instrument. the obvious choice would be to play the keyboard as a producer, but this isnt a strict thing. understanding music, meolody, chord sequences etc comes when your playing other peoples stuff. after a while in your head ideas will become more refined and jamming on your instrument can produce some really interesting ideas. it's all about progression and understanding. make sure the feeling and soul is in your music and practice playing music by artist who inspire you.

    also having a music theory reference book to hand is always a help if you cant pluck keys, chords and scales from your head.

    practice practice practice.
     
  17. jimjimjim

    jimjimjim oldskool

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    Fishy:) Active Member

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    I always start out with a chord progression then i work out from that
     
  19. Woodz12

    Woodz12 sssounds so heavy...

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    I usually work out a 2-4 bar loop thats going to sit underneath the main hook, this could even be just like 2 notes repeating. Then I make a bass part over the top of it and this could range from 8, 16 to 32 bars. It varies from tune to tune really! Sometimes i end up sitting at the keyboard for an hour or two before I get something i'm truly happy with and other times I could get something i like straight away
     
  20. VoPD

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    When I have the basic rhytm laid out I sing to it (more like a doodle) then load up massive, make some synth and lay down the notes. Then change everything and start a new tune from scratch.