How do i go about creating....

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  1. dj-dusty

    dj-dusty Member

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    Something similar to the punch bass that dillinja uses in in the grind...

    Audio link is here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogkWUnGbcng


    The sample comes in a exactly 1 min.

    I dont want that exact sound but i would like to be able to make a stab bass like that
     
  2. D Double U

    D Double U FQ Sessions

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    I hate that noise...
     
  3. Sammy_Dodger

    Sammy_Dodger Mr Ed

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    valve speakers and a warehouse to produce in probably helps...
     
  4. dj-dusty

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    lol shut up dave
     
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    Well seeing as i have neither of these things i wont be making that sound.

    How about somthing similar?
     
  6. moriaty

    moriaty Active Member

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    completely irrelevant. and also, speakers arent valve, amplifiers are.

    as far as that particular sound, its fairly simple. start with a sine wave, and apply an envelope on the pitch. but we're talking very little modulation. just keep playing around until it gets the curve you like. that should sort out your bottom end. as far as the higher stuff, theres many possibilities. use the same patch, and swap the sine with saw or square. that should give you enough high frequency content to mess with distortion, time effects, compression, etc
     
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    Nice one mate, ill give it a bash
     
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    Damn, I've just wasted half an hour messing around with this. The pitch drop and the basic sound is easy enough, but trying to get really close is a bit harder.
    Lots of trial and error.
     
  9. dj-dusty

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    Yeh it is really fucking hard, but along the way i made some really wicked sounds so im happy.

    Been fucking about for bloody ages making sounds and still havent managed to get anywhere close to a decent punch bass, still like you say its all trial and error.
     
  10. Sammy_Dodger

    Sammy_Dodger Mr Ed

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    you might want to ask for a joke book for Christmas pal...

    Yeah i know its the amps...im no noob...the speakers clearly say the brand VALVE rather than valve technology...so hush your gums!!
     
  11. logikz

    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    haha think you hurt sammys feelings gordo.
    sounds like your normal reece played high with a little pitch bend. possibly pulse waves instead of saw. so 2 oscs, detune until you get the wawawawawa effect and try it at c6 or so. with a little distortion or something to that effect. dillys punch bass are usually 808s processed in some way or another.
     
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    moriaty Active Member

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    no jokes are allowed in the production area.:teeth:
     
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    moriaty Active Member

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    thats what its all about. trying to recreate a sound, but ending up with loads of cool variations, plus the knowledge of making it yourself.

    excellent sir, 10 points (y)
     
  14. Protoplasym

    Protoplasym Nuskool

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    That patch exists on any number of synths.

    Why create it, just find it and use it: I'd be willing to bet the Producer of this track didn't make that patch from scratch.
     
  15. dj-dusty

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    Havent heard it on any other tracks, and im sure it would be if it was just a simple preset on a synth.

    Plus its much better to learn how to do it yourself, absolutly no fun in writing a tracks if ya just using presets and samples.

    I reckon dillinja did make the sound aswell, doubt massive producers like him would just use a preset.
     
  16. thedjnifty

    thedjnifty Well-Known Member

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    You'd be so surprised about the number of "massive" producers who rinse presets (although tweaked a little) all day long ...

    Dillinja is from the old school though, you can garantee he knows his stuff
     
  17. Protoplasym

    Protoplasym Nuskool

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    I don't know what to tell you... I've heard it on hundreds and hundreds of Breakbeat, Trance, DnB tracks.

    True, if you have zero clue how to make that sound in a simple Subtractive Synthesizer, then yeah, you can definitely benefit from the practice of making it.

    But once you've got that under your belt, you won't worry yourself with making such simple sounds, especially considering when they're already covered by presets in just about every synth out there.


    Sorry, I disagree, I'd be willing to bet that the guy simply used a prest. It's a run of the mill sound, I'm sorry to inform you.
     
  18. Protoplasym

    Protoplasym Nuskool

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    What he said ^...

    It's like this with everyone. Once you know how to make a sound, there's no point of recreating said sound in every synth you own just to prove to the punters that you 'make every sound you use'... no one does that, lol.