Bass Guiding low frequencies

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  1. Elzerk

    Elzerk 00111100 00110011

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    Hello,

    I'm currently suffering from a problem with low frequencies. I can't hear some of the freq's around 50hz with my studio monitors, while you go up from there it starts to flatten and every other freq's are as flat as I can make them. This spot where I sit in relation to speakers, is there any way to guide these low frequencies to my ears or help make them more audible? There is no big problem since I can just change to my headphones and check the sub, usually I listen with headphones anyway before locking down any mastering setup. When I rise from my chair and and go back about half an meter I can start hearing these sub frequencies, I was thinking maybe sitting further away or placing monitors farther away but in my case it's very tricky since I don't have a lot of room.


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  2. Nydus

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    Hi,

    What is the frequency response for your monitors?
     
  3. Elzerk

    Elzerk 00111100 00110011

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    Manufacturer claims it to be from 35 Hz to 20 kHz. 8" woofer. I think it's all about the acoustics since the frequencies are very much audible when walking around the room, wonder if it's even possible to guide them to the "sweet spot".
     
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    Every room is different, but a good starting point is to face the short wall and start by sitting 38% of the room length. apparently.......
     
  5. spyre

    spyre sample all the things

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    Have you got enough awesome shit in there?
     
  6. Elzerk

    Elzerk 00111100 00110011

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    Oh man, where did you hear that?

    No I do not. But if you wan't you can buy those soviet radiotehnikas.
     
  7. Mr Fletch

    Mr Fletch aka KRONIX

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    I 1st read it on the gearslutz forum. And after searching around a bit, I've found it referenced on several other music "sweet spot" articles. It's not fool proof, as every room is different, and obviously, any alcoves etc will effect resonance differently. But as a rule, it's a good starting point.
     
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  8. PROJECT K

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    sick setup you got
     
  9. SafeandSound

    SafeandSound Mastering Engineer

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    A common problem.

    The real solution is to bass trap your rooms corners first, then floor to wall then ceiling to wall.
    Immediate action to take :

    Try temporarily bunging any ports in your loudspeakers for the perspective of a sealed enclosure speaker. Reflex designs can produce inaccurate and over blown notes around the port resonant frequency. Also they can produce a "one note bass" effect where bass notes around the tuning frequency have a similar and difficult to distinguish tone. (basically inaccuracy) Bunging the port with a thick sock for a short period will give a new perspective.

    Move around a little and get another perspective and try to balance out the issue. i.e. if the note is weak at your monitoring position and very strong 2-3 feet away then you know a happy medium will be the goal.

    cheers

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  10. miszt

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    A simple solution, but quite effective: Very gently place one finger on the rim of your bass driver, you can feel the sub movement that way, dont press on the speaker at all, just touch it as lightly as you can, obviously there is no substitute for a decent sub bass monitoring setup, but in the mean time your finger can be a very useful tool
     
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    miszt BASSFACE Royale

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    bare in mind that moving your speakers around may be deceptive, you may change the positition of any standing waves in your studio which makes the sub more obvious, but tht doesnt mean you are getting a good idea of whats going on; bass traps are a good solution, although for very low sub freqs they can be difficult to implement
     
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  12. Eternaloptimist

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    This might help



    some advice from the guy doing the Noisia studio

     
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  13. Elzerk

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    Thanks everyone, trying to rep all I can. I knew there were some technical experts lurking in here somewhere.
     
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    spyre sample all the things

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