Im sorry but ive gota have a rant about this, i hate clipz and i hate tc the dnb scene would be a much better place without them and there ridiculous ideas. Yea they have made a couple alright tunes but everything there doing now is just a way to milk the scene for as much cash for as little work as possible. Honestly tho its almost as if both these fools and many others surfacing have decided to not bother starting a new tune from scratch and instead just recycle the same beats to make a slightly differnet version of the same tune. Yea its there 'unique' sound but shouldnt there unique sound be good to start with if there gona be using it all the time?! (tc's drums!?!?!?!??!??!?!?) Its pissing me off as i am into the production side of things, been at it for about a year properly and i havent quite got there yet but im sure if i had there knowlege ide be much more use to the scene, it just takes the piss, im sure most of u think the same unless ur a jump up lover/ jover like $marty but its taken its toll with me. Im thinkin it cant be stopped, there now famous so there just gona keep on goin untill they accidently stumble across a good tune again. Ive come to 1 of 2 solutions, and that would be to take the time studying production get it sussed and then just use it to fuck em over, every tune they make ill remix myself give it out for FREE and send it to all the big dj's sooner or later ppl will start getting the hint and who knows they might just accidently walk into a bus??? 2nd solution would be to just ignore em........and hope sooner or later the mass amount of pill munching idiots that decide to dance to there tunes form braincells and realise there shit!!!!!!!! Cause its blatently those hedz who enjoy bleeping noises and stupid gay vocals, and i quote tc: ' yea yea yea yea ahhhh fuck ive forgotten the words' if you've heard that tune ude no what i mean he's such a bell cheese Safe END OF RANT!!!!!!