Right i've had a problem with hi-hats for ages. I've come on here time and time again and the advice has always been very helpful! I don't have any problem getting my hi-hats placed in the sonic space in terms of panning, sample delay etc, or eq-ing, i normally hi-pass between 600-1000hz and then boost at around 7000hz - 9000hz. I use envelopes to slow the attack a bit just to make them a bit less tinny and i use overdrive and distortion to make them a bit more sharp and i occasionally layer them with some subtle compression. But when i listen to professional tracks, the hats sound a lot more 'full' mine still sound really 'thin'. It's like they have more low end, but i've put them through a spectrum analyzer and there hitting the same frequencys as mine (roughly). What other techniques can you use? Is pitching your hats down a good technique? Or anything else?